what the sam hell are these things called?

brian

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i dont have a pic of one cause i dont really know what they are called, but they are a silver cymbal like percussion instrament that looks kinda like a bycycle wheel, or thr bottom part of a roto tom. does anyone know what i am talking about?
Ginger Baker has a small one on his kit, and Dale Crover sometimes hase a huge one on his kit.
they are mounted on a cymbal stand.
 

vargasdrumbeast

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Is this what you are looking for? If it the are made by Factory Metal Percussion and these are called Celtic Bell's and Hi-hat Jinglers.

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vargasdrumbeast

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Is this what you are looking for? If it is these are made by Factory Metal Percussion and they're are called Celtic Bell's and Hi-hat Jinglers.

 

screamkevin

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Actually, I believe what you're referring to is a product that used to be made by Remo called "Spoxe". They can be stacked as Hi-Hats, used underneath or over other cymbals, or on their own.



Terry Bozzio still uses them in his "sick jazz" kit as a 3rd set of hi-hats. Look in the upper right of the picture below.

 

Rockula!

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These are Roto Tom pieces without the lug holes drilled in them
The fact that the pieces are so resonant is what makes the Roto project so much
They are very clangy and they resonante for a long time

BTW
Dale Crover is the only guy I ever saw that hit so hard that he broke an Ice Bell!
 

phoenix7289

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screamkevin":3p0qkisj said:
Actually, I believe what you're referring to is a product that used to be made by Remo called "Spoxe". They can be stacked as Hi-Hats, used underneath or over other cymbals, or on their own.



Terry Bozzio still uses them in his "sick jazz" kit as a 3rd set of hi-hats. Look in the upper right of the picture below.

That is quite a drumset... *saved the pic* :p
What band did he play for? lol
Yes I do not know him really too well :p
And can we get a spec list???
 

screamkevin

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Phoenix,

Terry Bozzio is one of the most influential drummers alive today. He has played for a myriad of artists, most notably Frank Zappa, who wrote the famous drum solo piece "The Black Page" specifically for Terry, and Missing Persons, who Terry drummed for, and his wife Dale sang for. Recently, Terry has been busy playing with Tony Levin (bass) and Steve Stevens (Billy Idol's guitarist) and composing classical solo drumset pieces, using a large kit (it makes the pictured one look small) complete with chromatic and diatonically tuned toms, and a myriad of effects.

Check out his official website, www.terrybozzio.com for specs on his kits, although I'm not sure that they are all current. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at it now, and it's not current. Check out www.drummerworld.com and click on Terry's name for his page there. There are current pics of his kit, and a link to some really cool vids of him playing drum duet pieces with Chad Wackerman.

Here's his current kit, still under construction, diatonically tuned timp-toms on the left and chromatic rack toms on the right, 6 bass drums ranging from 18" to 32", foot operated snares, djembes, cowbells, and floor toms, and of course, his signature Sabian Radia cymbals. Enjoy.:



And check this out: Terry's entire kit being set up in time-lapse, with him talking about it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uV9WlgC5oWo
 

screamkevin

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As Rockula said, they are very resonant, more like an ice bell on steroids. As for where to get one, E-Bay is a start. Remo does not make them anymore, so finding one is rather like a treasure hunt. As of this posting (1:35am EST on 3/12/07), there are no listings for them on E-Bay. Try drum shops, pawn shops, wherever you can. Good luck!
 

Rockula!

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That's exactly what you can do
Keep in mind, the larger the roto, the harder it will be to find them
The 6"-8"-10" are the most common
I have them up to 16" but there is an 18"

The roto is 2 pieces
One is the recepticle for the tension rods, the other acts as a "basket" for the head, being pressed up against the head to provide tension
The pieces are pretty much uniform with the bottom piece being the "next tize up" from the top piece (10" rototom head, 12" rototom pice on the bottom)
You will only be able to mount the bottom half of a roto because there is no hole drilled in the center section of the top piece
Of course, you could always drill a hole in the top piece, but you will have to contend with the extra hardware on the bottom of the top piece that is there to accept the rod (huh huh huh, I said "accept the rod")

You could actually take an entire set of rotos and play the spokes melodicaly (sp?)

Bozzio played a kit with rotos (plus "real" bass drums and floor toms) when he was with Missing Persons
 
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