What heads for birch drums?

Qbs

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I'm using a 12x9 Premier Artist Birch tom. Currently it has Evans G1 coated on top and Evans Resonant on the bottom side. The problem is that I find the sound too bright for my liking - I suppose that birch drums should sound bright but I really miss that warm punch and I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions on heads which would help to make the sound darker. I'm thinking Evans EC2?
 

ganeshgiri

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I've used EC2s on my birch kits, and they sound amazing! Think a pinstripe with more tone and sustain, it's really focused with a nice low fundamental. Bear in mind, I tune low... I have also loved using coated G2's, they are really my favorite, but they reflect the lights too much to use all the time live. Also there are now coated EC2's which are the BOMB. You will totally dig these, I promise...
 

Qbs

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thanks for the feedback. Do you think I should also change the bottom head to something thicker?
 

ganeshgiri

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thin resonants work well with a thicker top head; otherwise, I'd worry about it sounding kind of flat, but I've never tried it.
 

Qbs

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another option I got from a friend of mine was to go with a G2 on top and G1 on bottom, but I think I'll check out that EC2 when some cash arrives ;)
 

ganeshgiri

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that's a good combo. I found the clear G2s to be vastly different than the coated ones, the latter being much more live. I used both combos on my pearl birch kit this year, and the coated rocked, the clear sounded closer to the hydraulic, kind of dead... hope this helps...
 

funkdrmr

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Another vote here for EC2's.

I'm using EC2's on top, and G2 clears on bottom. The EC2 / G1 combo was good, but I'm playing hard rock & I like a lot of punch, but still a good amount of sustain on my kit.

Oh yeah.....the kit is Yamaha Recording Custom.
 

Mistajohn

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I have a 1987 Yamaha Recording Custom (yes, Birch). Power Toms.

Although I have the set of 5 toms, I only use two, the 10" and 12" (as rack and floor toms).

On those I use Aquarian Studio-X heads. After years of using pin stripes, then coated Ambassadors, I switched to the Aquarians. They are VERY DURABLE and hold their tone for a long time. No easy feat when you play hard.

And for recording they are great. I've gotten the best tom tones I ever had.

I like Aquarians or Remo (Power Stroke 3) on the Kick (a 22"). My snares (a 13" tama Birdseye & 14 x 5.5" Yamaha) always get a Remo Amabssador. It just works and gives me no issues.
 
I use G2s on top and G1 resonants on the bottoms of my birch kit...and they sound huge when miked, and just as good unmiked. They project well when tuned high, and thunder when tuned lower. I used EC2s on mine, but there wasn't enough 'secondary' resonance for my taste. This resonance I'm talking about is when you hit one tom and then the rest ring, all as an entire set.

Like I said, I'd recommend G2s with G1 resonants on the bottom.
 

tubbs

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I used Aquarian Coated Double Thin heads on my toms forever, butthey have since discontinued the line. This was a popular head for metal drummers overs the years. I am actaully more of a versatile drummer, playing funk, r&b, country, rock, etc... and these heads were the best thing I had heard in a long time. Since I can't buy them anymore I talked to the guys at Aquarian and they gave me some newer stuff to try. I have found that the Response 2 coated is as close to the double thin as I can get. That is of course, without going to Evans for a replacement. I just like the way Aquarian builds their heads and the fact that they do hold a tune longer and are more durable than other brands. I also use a coated Super Kick II on my kick and Studio X on all my snare drums. Good Luck!
 

Qbs

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thanks for all the sugestions. I know that I don't want pinstripes because they kill the sound too much IMO and that is the reason why I'm so sceptical about the EC2... some say they're way better than pinstripes but some say they're just the same :)

what do you think about those: http://attackdrumheads.com/thin2ply.htm ?
 

tubbs

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First of all, what d you play, stlye of course? What king of drums? In my opinion, after playing for 19 years and weling drums for a few years at Guitar Center in Atlanta, GA., don't waiste your time with attack. They sound horrible, unless you play very hard, but then they don't hold up to the beating. Some people love them in the drumming community, but look into them as artist and see what they do. Evans G2 Coated and Aquarian Response 2 Coated are by far the best 2-ply coated heads on the market. Always use a single ply clear head on the bottom tom, but it really doesn't matter which one. Obviously the match to your top head brand is the best, but it really doesn't make a difference if you know how to tune.
 

Qbs

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I play a mixture of reggae/funk/hip-hop ;) the drum is a 12x9 Premier Artisti Birch.
What's wrong with Remo Emperor?
 

tubbs

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You know, it's really a personal choice. I have never liked Remo heads, simply for the fact that they are weak and they don't last when you are out on the road traveling. Now, on the other hand, if you are on the road and you need an emergency replacement, chances are, you will only be able to find Remo products. The way they glue their heads into the ring is what really bothers me. Aquarian actually builds the head into the rim, so it is locked and there is no need for stretching to break a seal. Like I said though, it's a personal choice. If the emperor sounds and plays the way you want it, then get after it. The only time a choice in heads really matters is when you are endorsing a specific product. Some people find something they like and stick to it. It's just like the question posted about sticks that people use. Like I said also, if you know how to tune, it doesn't matter what heads you are using. When you hit that sweet spot, you'll know.
 

TheRhythmest

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Qbs":jt9i8geg said:
I'm using a 12x9 Premier Artist Birch tom. Currently it has Evans G1 coated on top and Evans Resonant on the bottom side. The problem is that I find the sound too bright for my liking - I suppose that birch drums should sound bright but I really miss that warm punch and I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions on heads which would help to make the sound darker. I'm thinking Evans EC2?

I see your plea ...try an Evans G2 it's thicker more focused and if you need help? www.evansdrums.com go to drumkits and find the g2 it will have grid for sound scroll over the g2 icon and that should help.I own a recording custom and a hip gig jr and both have them on it . And I have tryed others but for the bang? G2 coated for studio and G2 clear for live good luck


Grant therhythmest

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Fudman

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I say if you want a warm punch with not tomuch ring get the Evans hydraulics. just got a set for my birch kit the sound is great.
 

Rob Crisp

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I have just sold my Premier Artist Birch heritage jazz kit,m which I used for both jazz and light rock with various heads.

Remo Everplay for the jazz, and swapped to Pinstripes for soft rock.

The Everplay heads sung beautifully and with a great tone. But the punch the Birch shells had with Pinstripes was incredible! (It was only a small be-bop kit)

As for resonants, i kept the Everplay heads on for both styles.
 

Qbs

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TheRhythmest":2hd7q5e4 said:
I see your plea ...try an Evans G2 it's thicker more focused and if you need help? www.evansdrums.com go to drumkits and find the g2 it will have grid for sound scroll over the g2 icon and that should help.
exactly :) I've used that grid to get my G1 :) according to the grid the Hydraulics would be perfect in terms of the "warmnes" but than again the J1 are the most "open" :)
 
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