What happened to Rogers Drums ?

dave lynch

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I'm not looking for a complete record of what happened, but some basic info and Opinions...They just never seemed to get completely off the ground like Ludwig and Slingerland did..Hmmm..Why ? Did Buddy being a Slingerland and then a Ludwig player have something to do with it ?
 

JAdrums2k

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Buddy did endorse Rogers for bit (first I heard of that)....... among
Louie Bellson
Cozy Cole
Ed Shaughnessy
Mickey Hart
Glenn Evans
David Garibaldi... to name a few

Bad business management. CBS (who owned Fender & Rhodes Pianos) bought Rogers in the 80's and eventually dumped it off to Yamaha last year when they went bankrupt.

Mostly considered collectors items now.... tho Yamaha will start producing them again soon
 

ThePloughman

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CBS bought Rogers about 1966. Moved the wharehousing facility from Cleveland to Dayton, then in 1969-70 to Fullerton CA. Cost cutting measures soon took their effect on quality. Rogers were the Cadillac of drums in the 60s. They cost more, their quality was probably highest of all the companies building in the USA. While there were some quality issues in the early 70s, the memrilock hardware introduced in 75 was rock solid. Rogers innovated many of the things we take for granted today, such as .... memory locks. Solid Hardware. In 1979, XP8 drums were introduced, 8 ply all maple keller. In the mid to late 80s, CBS licensed building offshore to Island Music. Rogers was basically done at that point. From being on top of the pile to entry level in 20 years.
Yamaha currently owns the rights to the Rogers legacy. Hopefully some good will come of it.

I play and collect Rogers USA drums.

 

dave lynch

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ThePloughman":2m535vj9 said:
CBS bought Rogers about 1966. Moved the wharehousing facility from Cleveland to Dayton, then in 1969-70 to Fullerton CA. Cost cutting measures soon took their effect on quality. Rogers were the Cadillac of drums in the 60s. They cost more, their quality was probably highest of all the companies building in the USA. While there were some quality issues in the early 70s, the memrilock hardware introduced in 75 was rock solid. Rogers innovated many of the things we take for granted today, such as .... memory locks. Solid Hardware. In 1979, XP8 drums were introduced, 8 ply all maple keller. In the mid to late 80s, CBS licensed building offshore to Island Music. Rogers was basically done at that point. From being on top of the pile to entry level in 20 years.
Yamaha currently owns the rights to the Rogers legacy. Hopefully some good will come of it.

I play and collect Rogers USA drums.

OMG Look at those..Jeeeeze they are pretty..!!!
 

Atmerrill

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Well Rogers fans, I hate to disappoint you, but brace yourself for a heartache: Yes, Yamaha did buy the Rogers name. And, if you had seen them at last year's L.A. NAMM, you would have cried. Think of the lowest quality, cheapest made CB700 drumset, and then go down 3 pegs. OMG what crap. Crap shells, B.S. mounts on the bass drum. It was truly sad.

There was a Rogers booth and two god awful kits with a rep just standing there. No literature, no flyers, banners, press info...nuttin. Word is that Yamaha took it in the shorts on some of their projects, and purchasing Rogers allowed them to write off a ton of debt as they had to satify much of Rogers debt to get the name rights. Anyway, doubtful we'll ever see anything of the glory Rogers once entertained.

Sorry for the sad note.

Regards,
 

dave lynch

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Atmerrill":2810o3rw said:
Well Rogers fans, I hate to disappoint you, but brace yourself for a heartache: Yes, Yamaha did buy the Rogers name. And, if you had seen them at last year's L.A. NAMM, you would have cried. Think of the lowest quality, cheapest made CB700 drumset, and then go down 3 pegs. OMG what crap. Crap shells, B.S. mounts on the bass drum. It was truly sad.

There was a Rogers booth and two god awful kits with a rep just standing there. No literature, no flyers, banners, press info...nuttin. Word is that Yamaha took it in the shorts on some of their projects, and purchasing Rogers allowed them to write off a ton of debt as they had to satify much of Rogers debt to get the name rights. Anyway, doubtful we'll ever see anything of the glory Rogers once entertained.

Sorry for the sad note.

Regards,
Well I expected something like that..I know I was lazee and could have found that info myself, but I was at work and just got to thinkin how so many other companies made it and Rogers died..Now I wish I had never sold my 70s pre memorylock double kick ( Virgins ) with two racks and two floors in jet black and a Dynosonic Snare that belive it or not had the best sounding grace note I've ever played...Uggghhh...maybe I should keep my Tama Starclassic Maple for ever..Mine are 9 ply and I think they make them 6 or 7 ply now..!! OH Well..That's the ropes, but GREAT for you collectors..!!
 

Rockula!

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The cheapening of the Rogers name happened because of the Brook Mays music company
I was working for them during the dwindling years and it was really sad
There was a whole warehouse full of parts that I have to admit, I pilfered a piece or two
I forgot the name of the man they had in charge of Rogers, but they fired him too
It was really sad because he had all of these pictures of the original endorsers and him on his walls
Yamaha bought the name out after Brook Mays went under
 

WindyCityDrumCo

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buddy told rogers that since cbs didnt think he was good enough to put out his records then obviously he wasnt good enough to play their drums and he left.
 

ThePloughman

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It wasnt Brooks Mays that killed Rogers or cheapened the name. It was CBS. Cost Cutting, reduction in quality, poor marketing, bad management. After it was ran in the ground, it was licensed to an offshore, and then dwindled away. Spitzer ended up with the rights and about the only thing they produced were T Shirts. Brook Mays got it from them, and at the end, were just beginning to produce some decent product. Yamaha has it now and we are right back where we were in 1985. No Where.

Salute, to the glory days of Rogers Drums....................

 

wii2525

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ThePloughman":37uls0mr said:
It wasnt Brooks Mays that killed Rogers or cheapened the name. It was CBS. Cost Cutting, reduction in quality, poor marketing, bad management. After it was ran in the ground, it was licensed to an offshore, and then dwindled away. Spitzer ended up with the rights and about the only thing they produced were T Shirts. Brook Mays got it from them, and at the end, were just beginning to produce some decent product. Yamaha has it now and we are right back where we were in 1985. No Where.

Salute, to the glory days of Rogers Drums....................

Wow. :shock: I think i just shit meself...

Those are beautiful. I used to own some Rogers from the 60's

R.I.P Rogers...
 

Brother_Bong

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ThePloughman":1hkhqg24 said:
It wasnt Brooks Mays that killed Rogers or cheapened the name. It was CBS. Cost Cutting, reduction in quality, poor marketing, bad management. After it was ran in the ground, it was licensed to an offshore, and then dwindled away. Spitzer ended up with the rights and about the only thing they produced were T Shirts. Brook Mays got it from them, and at the end, were just beginning to produce some decent product. Yamaha has it now and we are right back where we were in 1985. No Where.

Salute, to the glory days of Rogers Drums....................

Wow, impressive collection!
 

dbkman

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the rogers kits that still exist should be cherished. truly works of art...but sadly, R.I.P. rogers. some of the best
 

ThePloughman

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Really, they were, are........ a thing of timeless beauty, innovation, quality..........every company....... aspires to be what Rogers WAS. Yamaha is still using technological advances they copied from Rogers. So is pearl.


1966 8x12 interior


1964 Red Wine Ripple ........ zero fade. showroom condition.


The Rogers Swivomatic Throwoff, virtually unchanged from 1963 to the end of production in the USA, and even through to the end of the offshore production in the early 90s. Extremely reliable. Secure. Sensible. Never fails.


The SuperTen, every bit the equal of the Supra. And without the pimples.
 

chichi1619

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i had an XP8 before and i coudn't get it tuned right and my other kit was sufficient so i sold it and got $75 for it. Guitar Center told me that they were beginner kits and that they aren't worth much these days. did i really get ripped?
 

ThePloughman

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chichi1619":p3zipb6a said:
i had an XP8 before and i coudn't get it tuned right and my other kit was sufficient so i sold it and got $75 for it. Guitar Center told me that they were beginner kits and that they aren't worth much these days. did i really get ripped?
you were ripped, big time. XP8 drums now have the attention of collectors, and the prices are beginning to skyrocket.
 

Gaddabout

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ThePloughman":672oztt2 said:
chichi1619":672oztt2 said:
i had an XP8 before and i coudn't get it tuned right and my other kit was sufficient so i sold it and got $75 for it. Guitar Center told me that they were beginner kits and that they aren't worth much these days. did i really get ripped?
you were ripped, big time. XP8 drums now have the attention of collectors, and the prices are beginning to skyrocket.
Indeed. My neighbor's early 80s XP8 4-piece (toms and BD) just sold for about $1,200. I'm guessing the tuning was difficult because the toms were not conventional sizes. Not like modern short stacks or anything like that.
 

visaliadrumguy

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I play my 61 holiday every day. What I want to know is what happened to parts dealers in California. Trying to find a throwoff for my dynasonic is like pulling teeth.
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