what do you want in your monitor mix?

m

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prompted by a remark in the 'soundguy vs drummer' thread, I'm wondering what other folks want in their monitor on stage.
(If you don't gig, the monitor is a speaker cabinet onstage or a mix sent to your in-ear-monitors that is personalized and only you can hear, it differs from what the crowd hears through the main PA speakers and can make whatever instruments you choose more prominent)

Recently, a soundguy went 'festival style' on us (no soundcheck) and said he'd come up after the first song and ask what we wanted adjusted. Well, he never came back- we had to live with the mix the whole night, and it wasn't pretty-

he only put 'you' in your monitor. What good is that?! I thought the whole point of monitoring is to be able to hear each other on stage, not 'more me.'

Just curious if that was an isolated idiotic situation, or if some folks actually use a mix with no one else in it? Is that even a 'mix?'

what do you want in your monitor mix?
 

trstn

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quite some base, some little guitars, clear vocals ( base drum with a lot of a little above 2k kick with maximum low end hehehe ) ;)

I'm used to blind flying, though ...
I'm always happy to have free sight on the foot switches of the 1st guitarist, to see when he's changing sounds, then I'll know, next parts coming up 8)
 

Atmerrill

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I tell sound guys I just want to mainly hear vocals in the monitors and a little bit of the instruments. Personally, I like to hear the instruments as ambiently as possible, but I need to hear vocals clearly for cues and what not. I don't need me in my mix and rarely does the band. Oh, and most importantly: Please don't have the monitor blasting my ear off.

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Call me Gideon

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I usually go with equal amounts of vocals & rythm guitar w/ justn a little bass and lead guitar. I dont need me in the mix at all.
 

m

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thanks for the input so far!

I forgot to mention my preference in the original post.

When I use a hybrid kit I like a little of the E's in my mix, but I don't really see the need for acoustic drums to get mixed in.

I like the vox most prominent too. I prefer at least a bit of bass and guitar, especially if you can't hear the mains from the stage or there's excessive slapback from the room. In order of prominence in the mix, for me it's VOX/bass/guitar/keys/e-drum.
And I agree w/ ATM- I hate it when the monitor is unreasonably loud. Only had that happen once so far, and it was the same guy who put ONLY drums in it. doofus
 

SHOGUNWARRIOR32

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Atmerrill":2n8w7rei said:
I tell sound guys I just want to mainly hear vocals in the monitors and a little bit of the instruments. Personally, I like to hear the instruments as ambiently as possible, but I need to hear vocals clearly for cues and what not. I don't need me in my mix and rarely does the band. Oh, and most importantly: Please don't have the monitor blasting my ear off.

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ditto that...vocals a must to help guage tempo. shogun
 

SHOGUNWARRIOR32

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Atmerrill":3opj29t5 said:
I tell sound guys I just want to mainly hear vocals in the monitors and a little bit of the instruments. Personally, I like to hear the instruments as ambiently as possible, but I need to hear vocals clearly for cues and what not. I don't need me in my mix and rarely does the band. Oh, and most importantly: Please don't have the monitor blasting my ear off.

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ditto that...vocals a must to help guage tempo. shogun
 

SHOGUNWARRIOR32

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Atmerrill":3ifup4un said:
I tell sound guys I just want to mainly hear vocals in the monitors and a little bit of the instruments. Personally, I like to hear the instruments as ambiently as possible, but I need to hear vocals clearly for cues and what not. I don't need me in my mix and rarely does the band. Oh, and most importantly: Please don't have the monitor blasting my ear off.

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ditto that...vocals a must to help guage tempo. shogun
 

JAdrums2k

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I've never had a good monitor mix unless we do our own sound which we usually do anyway

our mix - hot kick & bass, slight guitars.... vocals present, but very low

Soundguy mix - I'll tell him what I want, after 2 songs if it's unbearable I'll have him shut em down

We've always had good "non verbal communication" so cues are never a problem. Gestures, motions, etc... you know when the changes are coming and what to look for after awhile.
Luckily the band follows me , as long as I don't screw up everything stays tight without the monitors
 

Mike DeKic

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I like to have a good even mix. I usually tell the sound guy to give me the "Front of House Mix". Meaning my mix sounds as close to what what is being heard out front as possible. Then from there I will cue any tweaking as needed.
 

SINISTER

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I ALWAYS ask for an even mix in my monitors.......that way you hear EVERYTHING that people in the audience are hearing
 

mute

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i have generally not gotten a monitor and so i have left it up to the sound guy when i have (which has worked out pretty well those few times). however, if it were up to me, i think it would matter who the other band members were. i would want the strongest elements in my mix. i would hope that would be the bass and vocals, but sometimes that's not the case. right now, it's vocals and guitar.
 

break the prism

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i have a habit of playing by feeling and by listening to the other musicians, so i never really want my drums too loud i nmy monitor.
in order of volume from high to low...

Bass
Vocals
Guitar
Keys
 

SmellsLikeIan

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Prism and multibomber have a good way of explaining theirs, so I'll continue with my own preference, using their form....

1. Kick
2. Vocals (I sing harmonies, as does the lead guitarist, so I like mine just about the same level as the lead singer in my monitor, and the 3rd harmony a little lower in my mix)
3. Rhythm guitar (a tiny bit and only if I can't hear it otherwise)
4. Bass (same as with rhythm guitar)
5. Lead guitar (same as with rhythm and bass)

The most important things for me to hear is the kick (just because I like the thump in my gut-it gives me a warm, fuzzy, "everything is OK" sort of feeling) and the vocals. About half the time those two things are all I ask for in my monitors.
 

crackheadback

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I have been asked if I wanted kick in my monitor on many occasions but never feel like I need it. I usually want lead guitar and vocals being the loudest with a little bass. I can usually watch the bass player and see where he's at, or better yet...he can follow and sync with what Im playing. Why do people like the kick in their monitor, is it not sufficient to feel it when you push the pedal?
 

Atmerrill

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SHOGUNWARRIOR32":71my4usz said:
Can someone tell me why my shit keeps Multi-posting???.. i swear I'm only hitting submit once!!!


Shogun
I thought you just really wanted to get your point across!

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Multibomber

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I need kick in my monitor because I always play to a click track so I need to make certain everything is hitting at the exact same time. I can always hear my snare and other things, but I'll always keep wondering if I'm on time or not if i dont have kick in the monitor. I do it the exact same way when I'm recording.
 
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