Trick Pro 1-V Detonator Double Pedal....your thoughts

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AT $769.99 I think its absolutely ridiculous
 

dave lynch

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SINISTER":f11wjk0p said:
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AT $769.99 I think its absolutely ridiculous
God sakes that pretty..I would love to try one..mmmmmm
 

Howepirate

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Hmm. Seems like a lot of hype to me really. Since Longstreth tryed using the Bigfoots and didnt like em and went back to good old axis i havent even wanted to try them.
 

anavrinIV

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id love to try one but i dont think i could own it for the price. ive heard that it destroys axis pedals and if thats true then its probably worth the money to someone who really needs it.
 

zen_drummer

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anavrinIV":1ditznd2 said:
I'd love to try one but i dont think i could own it for the price. ive heard that it destroys axis pedals and if thats true then its probably worth the money to someone who really needs it.
The Trick Pro 1V absolutely does destroy Axis pedals....

BUT....

I was using the Axis A standard double... not the longboards when I first got my Trick kit... I ordered a a Trick double, (a double big foot with the zero-backlash U joints) which I waited quite a while for. When it finally arrived I put it on the kit and absolutely could not make it feel good... I switched back to my Axis double while I tried to figure out all the adjustments on the Trick pedal. At first glance I didn't like the Trick and preferred the Axis.

Once I figured out all the adjustments I gave it another shot, and it was as good as the Axis... but the more I dialed it in the better it got. Once you figure out the tricks of the Trick, it's absolutely amazing.

No pedal will make you faster... some pedals can slow you down. The Trick doesn't get in your way, and it will go as fast as you can, probably faster. It feels great, and once the thing is dialed in the power and speed are the best I have used. It really does make the Axis pedals feel slow.

I can completely understand somebody giving the Trick a trial run and hating it. If you give up on it, you will go back to whatever you were using and be convinced the Trick doesn't live up to it's price. If you give it a chance... set it up right, get it dialed in and give it a whirl, you'll prefer it and see what I mean.

I wrote a review of the experience on my website, to give it a full read, follow the link below:

http://www.unitedgrooveworkers.com/inde ... &Itemid=15

The high price tag does seem a bit out of line at first. When you have it and see the level of engineering and quality of materials that goes into it, you can see where the money goes. Is $769.00 too much money for the last pedal you'll EVER buy? I think it's much cheaper than replacing DW pedals every few years, and even My axis pedals are not built even close to the build quality of the Trick.
 

SINISTER

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zen_drummer":3mdbkgan said:
anavrinIV":3mdbkgan said:
I'd love to try one but i dont think i could own it for the price. ive heard that it destroys axis pedals and if thats true then its probably worth the money to someone who really needs it.
The Trick Pro 1V absolutely does destroy Axis pedals....

BUT....

I was using the Axis A standard double... not the longboards when I first got my Trick kit... I ordered a a Trick double, (a double big foot with the zero-backlash U joints) which I waited quite a while for. When it finally arrived I put it on the kit and absolutely could not make it feel good... I switched back to my Axis double while I tried to figure out all the adjustments on the Trick pedal. At first glance I didn't like the Trick and preferred the Axis.

Once I figured out all the adjustments I gave it another shot, and it was as good as the Axis... but the more I dialed it in the better it got. Once you figure out the tricks of the Trick, it's absolutely amazing.

No pedal will make you faster... some pedals can slow you down. The Trick doesn't get in your way, and it will go as fast as you can, probably faster. It feels great, and once the thing is dialed in the power and speed are the best I have used. It really does make the Axis pedals feel slow.

I can completely understand somebody giving the Trick a trial run and hating it. If you give up on it, you will go back to whatever you were using and be convinced the Trick doesn't live up to it's price. If you give it a chance... set it up right, get it dialed in and give it a whirl, you'll prefer it and see what I mean.

I wrote a review of the experience on my website, to give it a full read, follow the link below:

http://www.unitedgrooveworkers.com/inde ... &Itemid=15

The high price tag does seem a bit out of line at first. When you have it and see the level of engineering and quality of materials that goes into it, you can see where the money goes. Is $769.00 too much money for the last pedal you'll EVER buy? I think it's much cheaper than replacing DW pedals every few years, and even My axis pedals are not built even close to the build quality of the Trick.


Nuff said, end of thread!
 

xdoseonex

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from what i understand, John longstreth was really amped after trying the trick pedals and said he "couldnt wait to bring them on tour". I never heard that he didnt like them and went back to axis. But if its true. it wasnt after a trial run. He definatey used trick pedals for a period of time
 

Howepirate

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xdoseonex":12m5l82f said:
from what i understand, John longstreth was really amped after trying the trick pedals and said he "couldnt wait to bring them on tour". I never heard that he didnt like them and went back to axis. But if its true. it wasnt after a trial run. He definatey used trick pedals for a period of time
I promise you he did. If i could find the damn thread i'd show you but he posted it on the Derek Roddy forum board. Hes actually thinking about using like v-drum electronic pads for live play instead of triggers now... Weird.

http://derekroddy.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... =back+axis

Here, this is the post-tricks thread. I just cant find the one where he stated that he was going back to axis. You gotta realize that Longstreths technique is most likely proprietary to axis pedals with the way their made. I almost use his technique so im stickin with axis.
 

anavrinIV

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Howepirate":28xt7rfp said:
xdoseonex":28xt7rfp said:
from what i understand, John longstreth was really amped after trying the trick pedals and said he "couldnt wait to bring them on tour". I never heard that he didnt like them and went back to axis. But if its true. it wasnt after a trial run. He definatey used trick pedals for a period of time
I promise you he did. If i could find the damn thread i'd show you but he posted it on the Derek Roddy forum board. Hes actually thinking about using like v-drum electronic pads for live play instead of triggers now... Weird.

http://derekroddy.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... =back+axis

Here, this is the post-tricks thread. I just cant find the one where he stated that he was going back to axis. You gotta realize that Longstreths technique is most likely proprietary to axis pedals with the way their made. I almost use his technique so im stickin with axis.
that was a link to a thread about scan beat pedals....very little about tricks in there.
 

Howepirate

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anavrinIV":2ekdfgyx said:
Howepirate":2ekdfgyx said:
xdoseonex":2ekdfgyx said:
from what i understand, John longstreth was really amped after trying the trick pedals and said he "couldnt wait to bring them on tour". I never heard that he didnt like them and went back to axis. But if its true. it wasnt after a trial run. He definatey used trick pedals for a period of time
I promise you he did. If i could find the damn thread i'd show you but he posted it on the Derek Roddy forum board. Hes actually thinking about using like v-drum electronic pads for live play instead of triggers now... Weird.

http://derekroddy.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... =back+axis

Here, this is the post-tricks thread. I just cant find the one where he stated that he was going back to axis. You gotta realize that Longstreths technique is most likely proprietary to axis pedals with the way their made. I almost use his technique so im stickin with axis.
that was a link to a thread about scan beat pedals....very little about tricks in there.
Scroll down and read what John Longstreth posted.
 

Empyrean Drums

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I saw a set when I was at Rupp's yesterday, but they weren't the Bigfoots. They are a fine pedal with some innovative features, the main improvement being the compression spring assembly
You can take Longsteth's (or any other drummer) opinion into consideration, but I wouldn't do anything strictly because it's what he does without trying it for yourself.
 

anavrinIV

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"after years of trying everything it comes down to axis"

that doesnt say that he really go into the tricks though, it actually really says very little. saying that you dont even want to try this pedal because of a very slight comment made by one person is just....well....idk.
 

Howepirate

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anavrinIV":1bat4f54 said:
"after years of trying everything it comes down to axis"

that doesnt say that he really go into the tricks though, it actually really says very little. saying that you dont even want to try this pedal because of a very slight comment made by one person is just....well....idk.
He had 2 pairs of trick pedals and used them for quite a long time. Now hes back with axis.
 

zen_drummer

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Howepirate":18x2be10 said:
anavrinIV":18x2be10 said:
"after years of trying everything it comes down to axis"

that doesnt say that he really go into the tricks though, it actually really says very little. saying that you dont even want to try this pedal because of a very slight comment made by one person is just....well....idk.
He had 2 pairs of trick pedals and used them for quite a long time. Now hes back with axis.
Sometimes it just comes down to what feels good and familiar to you, know what I mean?

I think if I were to go back to using two bass drums, I would have to give the speed kings a try again, no matter how much I love my Tricks. I'm not sure what I would end up playing, but I do know that speed kings ALWAYS feel right to me.

I wonder if Axis paid him to come back? If I owned the Axis company, I certainly would!

I guess the thing about the Longstreth thread that I found to be almost shocking.... His comment that he tried to make a deal, and couldn't get a good enough one, so... it's back to the Axis pedals. (Or something along those lines)

Does this sound like a guy that is playing what he likes the most, or a guy that is trying to get a good deal on something he preferred, but plays the stuff that he can get most affordably?
 

Empyrean Drums

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zen_drummer":kphmt0iz said:
Howepirate":kphmt0iz said:
anavrinIV":kphmt0iz said:
"after years of trying everything it comes down to axis"

that doesnt say that he really go into the tricks though, it actually really says very little. saying that you dont even want to try this pedal because of a very slight comment made by one person is just....well....idk.
He had 2 pairs of trick pedals and used them for quite a long time. Now hes back with axis.
Sometimes it just comes down to what feels good and familiar to you, know what I mean?

I think if I were to go back to using two bass drums, I would have to give the speed kings a try again, no matter how much I love my Tricks. I'm not sure what I would end up playing, but I do know that speed kings ALWAYS feel right to me.

I wonder if Axis paid him to come back? If I owned the Axis company, I certainly would!

I guess the thing about the Longstreth thread that I found to be almost shocking.... His comment that he tried to make a deal, and couldn't get a good enough one, so... it's back to the Axis pedals. (Or something along those lines)

Does this sound like a guy that is playing what he likes the most, or a guy that is trying to get a good deal on something he preferred, but plays the stuff that he can get most affordably?
I always say - The best gear is what you get paid to play
 

drummerfreek55

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this is coming from someone who hasn't had playing experience with either one, but as far as Trick pedals go, I believe they're all their hyped up to be. As far as comparing them to Axis, all depends on playing style but their spring is where nothing else can compare. I will include a link to a youtube video displaying the different features of the Trick pedal: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mxUoNtLOlLk The one thing I KNOW nobody else can compare to in pedal manufacturing is that, as the video shows, the Trick is COMPLETELY silent. As the video quotes "The only noise it makes is when the beater hits the bass drum"
 

trstn

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all things said .. I just add

*DROOL*

I'll get a big foot to replace my DW5000 just need to put away some money for a little while longer... :D
 
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