dont forget creature drumsSteaky":3ubu4mif said:Ok so PJ did well from the free advertising, I'm sure he makes a great Drum. But just saying GO PJ is a barnum statement that can be applied to any thread on the entire forum. You sure PJ isn't paying you guy's to "Bloggertise?" This strategy is being used by all companies these day's. MM drums do seem to be mentioned a heck of a lot on DML.
I play Drums and get excited about them. I played on a set of these Jazz set's once and enjoyed it. Maybe tempted to get a set. I come on to DML wanting to discuss the sonic and aesthetic virtues of DW JAZZ drums? Some people are put off by DW. Cool. I don't like Mapex products. It's in the sound and the look of them. I may stick my hand up here and admit that I may have been a little outspoken on this. But also honestly by being a member of this forum I have been persuaded to look at Tama more closely. I've tried them and still they don't fit for me. Maybe I will look at MM drums (although I feel a little put off right now) but I live in the UK so maybe it's not so practical right now. And ultimately for the record there is simply not a modern kit out there that will make me sell my 70's luddies or my 60's Downbeats but I don't ever want to tour them so I look to modern gear for that. So get over it! Quit selling and hating please. Has anyone really checked these Jazz kit's out yet and what do you think?.
I play jazz on occasion. I know a guy who has a set of the new DW Jazz series drums. He seems pretty fond of them. I've never played them myself, so I really do not have anything to contribute.Steaky":17llaef8 said:come on to DML wanting to discuss the sonic and aesthetic virtues of DW JAZZ drums?
Great points. My apologies, as I re-read my post, it came of a bit harsh. If I come across any other reviews that could be helpful, I will link them up. Take care.Steaky":1773os8p said:Jazz drums is just a title for a line of drums. I play electro rock crossover but I don't consider these drums untouchable just because of the title. Anyway I think they make these kits in all sizes to cater for all types of music. But to hear from a Jazz player about these drums would be great. Surly already this outlines a great mistake by DW in giving the drums the Jazz name.
On your second point...........yeah ok I get it. But if I can't ask about a DW Drum kit here where can I? It is a drum forum after all and while I accept the majority are younger, there is still hundreds if not thousands of more seasoned players here.
Importantly I was not attacking PJ personally or MM products. Apologies if it came over that way.
The sudden wave of 'play Medicine Man' did feel a little unwarranted considering the original question. I listened to a radio program the other day about companies(inc Majors) harnessing the power of the internet way beyond just websites. They really are moving into Blog sites right now and employing/rewarding bloggers to as you put it "fluff" they're products. It's not at all far fetched as this form of advertising works on much more personal level and has proved to be highly effective. But I agree to lay this on PJ is over the top and I apologies again. I firmly believe(and I've said it before) that PJ is a valuable addition to DML. Actually I have found DML a great place to discover new and exciting drum makers. And yes Saluda do seem to be the trend in alt cymbals on here.
As for the conspiracy theory thing well business is business, but if I did find that a company had employed that blogg strategy, then it would mar my view of them. It would just feel a bit underhanded somehow especially to infiltrate such a great community such as ours.
So what about these blasted JAZZ KITS?????
That is exactly how I feel about DW. Nothing against them as such, but for that amount of cash I'd get something else just as good and keep the change. Haven't played the kit in question so can't comment.Alan_":ihuskm5s said:Personally, there's no way I'd pay what DW charges for their drums unless I was making a ton of money, but if you have it to blow, they're definitely nice.