Is this the same Win_Daddy that I remember from Drumzilla's Lair???win_daddy":bd1sge12 said:I use a hard case from Zildjian and I separate each cymbal in the stack with a layer of rubbermaid drawer liner. It comes in a roll really cheap. I just cut it into squares and then cut a small hole in the center for the bolt to go thru. I have cymbals dating back to 1979 that still look good. I rarely polish anything, but they don't get scratched up too bad. Also I use nylon tips and I don't hit hard enough to break em. I've only cracked one cymbal from playing in 30 years!