i dont know what everyone is talking about roid heads and jocks in mosh pits. i have been in plenty and never have i seen a "cut from the football team jock" in one. and if the stories you older people are tlaking about are true about helping each other up, well then onthing has fucking changed. go to a show with kids now, and watch. people still respect each other, you just dont want to belive it because you started the mosh revolution didnt you? and as for moshing and slam dancing and every other gay made up word for it, its not just hardcore slayer and cannibal corpse shows. best pit i was ever in was either saosin or alexisonfire. i guess i am just rambling now, and i am through.