agree. metal is hard and technical but mainly just because you have to play some really fast passages and play them really tight. jazz is just a whole new world and then theres all the little sub genres that branch off of jazz.elchris2k6":n16qlt1o said:
Amen to that. There are many metal drummers and bands of jazz origins, Dillinger Escape Plan, Ephel Duath, Sleep Terror, Meshuggah. I'm a big fan of both. Once you have learned the art of syncopating, you're tuned in-to jazz then employ as and when necessary to whatever type of ensemble you're playing with.Shalaq":14ffzidn said:I'd say both are hard technically, but I voted for jazz. I did it because most metal bands are juz in the loud&fast corner of the technical spectrum. The are some bands like Death or Cynic that expanded it more to look like a jazz oriented spectrum. But there are more jazz bands covering everything technically than metal bands.
If we talk about finesse, than both need it. But metal being this fast& tight, there's not really much to be finesse about. So even if the drummer is very good, if he doesn't play intricate parts very fast, he won't play them at all. If a jazz drummer is very emotional and creative but a bit slower, he can still manage to play how he feels and be heralded as a great drummer.
You're point is both true and untrue. Jazz is highly skilled and creative but, so is metal, not just fast and loud. Drummers that play in a certain style or band don't necessarily deserve to be doing so, because, the popularity of a band, the CV of a drummer, the amount of millions the albums sold or how many weeks it stays at number one, doesn't account for quality. An example of that is Lars Ulrich, biggest disgrace to both drumming and metal, a poor mans impression of Animal on a good day. Fame can come from pity, hence the abundance of reality TV shows. It is wrong to say that metal is JUST fast and loud, metal as with any other genre or sub-genre spawns countless amounts of bands that fit a certain catergory but sound millions of miles apart. For you to say that, is the equivelant of me working in your local H.M.V. and refusing to let you buy a Motzart CD unless you produce ID to prove you are a freemason.elchris2k6":2kxxw51k said: