I'd like to spend about two minutes with these punks

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cableman26

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This is from my hometown, we're not a big community. We are a close knit community though. While Sean was not my best friend we did talk in passing, and he was a stand-up guy.

Two teens are facing murder charges and a Southeastern Kentucky sheriff's deputy is dead after a crash early this morning in Bell County. Now many have questions about how this happened and why.

Police say early this morning, two teens left the Exxon gas station in Baxter in Harlan County without paying for gas and made a run for it, leading police on a chase that ended in tragedy. No one expected an alleged attempt to steal gas to turn so quickly into what police are calling murder. State police later tried to pull the 2002 Mazda over for speeding, but the driver refused to stop. Two state troopers chased the car into Bell County. Suddenly, the car veered left, crossed a lane of traffic and crashed into the side of a Bell County sheriff deputy's car, killing Deputy Sean Pursifull and his K9 King. Two troopers witnessed the whole thing.

"There are no skid marks prior to the collision. Deputy Percivill did have his emergency lights on and there are, were no taillights that came on prior to the collision. They did not brake," said Walt Meechum with the Kentucky State Police.

Deputy Pursifull was pronounced dead at the scene. Though they are not releasing their identities, police say a 16 and a 17 year old were in the vehicle. They are both being charged with one count of murder of a police officer and assault of a service animal.

The two teens were treated at a local hospital for minor injuries. They are currently housed at the Adair County, Juvinile Detention Center.

For many this story is about more than a deputy losing his life. It's about a father, son and co-worker being taken from those who love him.

Bell County Sheriff Bruce Bennett says Deputy Sean Pursifull died doing the job he loved so much.

"I can't stress enough how much Sean loved law enforcement and he really loved working here," Bennett said.

Working alongside his canine companion "King", the sheriff says the two had a special bond.

"He was totally committed to the dog and the dog totally committed to him. It's ironic, them leaving this world together," Bennett said.

Bennett says in recent days, Sean seemed happier than ever with his two girls, a fiancé, and a son on the way.

"He even made that statement, happiest in years with his job, his new life," Bennett said.

It's a deeply somber mood at the sheriff's office where there are only seven deputies that all work closely together. In fact, Sheriff Bennett says Sean was like a son to him.

"Several people told me he considers me his second dad. We'll just miss him so much," Bennett said.

As you can imagine, Sean Pursifull's immediate family is having a real hard time dealing with this. We caught up with his mother earlier.

"It's gonna be hard because I only have two boys, it's gonna be hard," said Bernice Pursifull, Sean's mother.
 

Mikey Ramone

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that's terrible. Hope they get the stiffest penalty that can be given out. It's reckless idiocy like this that I can't stand. I know i'm guilty of driving like an idiot in the past (ie racing my friends down a back road throwing stuff at each other, then later that day having a good friend killed in a crash and another hospitalized and his football career basically ended). After that I've realized that I was an idiot, and could have easily been killed, and you have no idea how terrible and stupid all my friends felt afterwards and thats on top of our friends passing. These kids need to be taught a lesson and made an example of. I hope they learn their lesson. I'm 17, i haven't driven for a long time, but now I know not to be an idiot, and though this may seem a little hypocritical given my actions, I probably would have accepted my punishment if something happened to me. To see someone killed for a bit of gas basically is just terrible.
 

Homki890

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Strap some electrodes onto their balls and assholes, turn them on, and throw them into a pool. Filled with razor blades. That's what they deserve.

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Rockula!

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Well, I would'nt put it in such extreme terms but it does appear that we should erase 2 people from the planet
They've already proven to be liabilities
Torture?
No
Death?
Yes
 

cableman26

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Yea, I'm so sick of stupidity. These punks just took somebodys friend, husband, son, and father. All because they wanted to steal some gas. It just makes me sick.
 

stump

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I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!
 

cableman26

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stump":1bn4q9i0 said:
I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!
Words of wisdom. I have alot of respect for you guys and what you do. (you may not hear that enough)
 

Gabimo

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stump":27mmnjuv said:
I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!
Is it his fault? I see a case for both being at fault and both being innocent, these kids should get 10 years min.! I really wish this hadn't happened, if they had just been good kids, payed and drove off at or slightly above the speed limit, then a man who enforces the law for this great country could still be alive, helping us all feel safer as we sleep, knowing that he and every other great man and women risking their own lives for our protection.

But what can you do... things like this should never happen. i feel they are the only ones responsible, stealing gas and a man has to die.
 

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Gabimo":2faqpepz said:
stump":2faqpepz said:
I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!
Is it his fault? I see a case for both being at fault and both being innocent, these kids should get 10 years min.! I really wish this hadn't happened, if they had just been good kids, payed and drove off at or slightly above the speed limit, then a man who enforces the law for this great country could still be alive, helping us all feel safer as we sleep, knowing that he and every other great man and women risking their own lives for our protection.

But what can you do... things like this should never happen. i feel they are the only ones responsible, stealing gas and a man has to die.
Not sure 10 years is quite enough punishment, personally. I mean, think about it. Someone lost his life, and that can't be taken back - 10 years in jail seems sort of like a mild nipple twister in comparison. They are obviously old enough to know what they were doing, so I don't think they should get any kind of break because they're minors. I'm also a forgiving person but I have no tolerance or pity for people who do stuff like this.

I think people are much too concerned with the rights of the criminals - in my opinion when you take someone's life there are certain rights you forfeit. Call me crazy but I would have thought the victims and the families and friends who are emotionally traumatized and lose someone close to them forever deserve higher consideration, and criminals definitely deserve stiffer penalties.

The excuse that really pisses me off is "Well, they had a rough life growing up, they never learned right from wrong." Come on. Surely you don't have to get a lesson to know it's wrong to kill someone?

Rest in peace, Sean.
 

stump

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Once again..I am not down playing what happened. My point was that you can't assume that they both chose to do that crime. You certainly can't blame someone for running from the police if they are not the driver. As stated... they deserve to get punished. Do I have faith in the criminal justice system that it will be enough...NO! Bottom line is that it is a fact of life that we will all die. Call me a realist. Deputy Pecivill died doing what he believed in. Respect! I live with that knowledge every day and accept it, as I am sure he did as well. Peace on ya!
 

cableman26

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I think they're gonna get tried as adults too. I hope so. And yea, they're both gonna be someone's girlfriend. I hope everytime one get's buried in them they think about the pain they cause Sean's family.
 

gaianbeatnik

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ok -- well... i'm going to get myself hated right away...

would you all be so angry and bloodthirsty if the corpses in question weren't a pig and his trained attack dog?
what if the cops had done a "pitt maneuver" during the chase (standard practice where i come from) causing the fleeing vehicle to spin out of control and resulting in the deaths of the two TEENAGERS rather than the deputy and dog? would you be screaming for the cop in question to be tortured unto grisly extermination???

i'm sick of fascists being considered heros. i don't know how this deputy was AS A PERSON, i'm sure he had his redeeming qualities like everyone else, but being a cop is as likely to make you a villain as a hero - that's all a matter of individual perspective. personally, i just don't like cops - especially ones who exploit animals the way K9's are...

flame away - i know you probably want me dead now too...
 

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gaianbeatnik":1yfsc3gg said:
ok -- well... i'm going to get myself hated right away...

would you all be so angry and bloodthirsty if the corpses in question weren't a pig and his trained attack dog?
what if the cops had done a "pitt maneuver" during the chase (standard practice where i come from) causing the fleeing vehicle to spin out of control and resulting in the deaths of the two TEENAGERS rather than the deputy and dog? would you be screaming for the cop in question to be tortured unto grisly extermination???

i'm sick of fascists being considered heros. i don't know how this deputy was AS A PERSON, i'm sure he had his redeeming qualities like everyone else, but being a cop is as likely to make you a villain as a hero - that's all a matter of individual perspective. personally, i just don't like cops - especially ones who exploit animals the way K9's are...

flame away - i know you probably want me dead now too...
You need a boot party
 

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I think hating all police because some choose to do their job improperly is really stupid.

I do get EXTREMELY angry when police cause the unnecessary death of a civilian through overreaction or cruelty. We've had a couple cases like that where I'm from. The cops in both cases got permanently suspended. Personally, I think they should have been thrown in the slammer, maximum sentence. If you are given the responsibility and power of upholding the law and abuse those powers, imo you should get an extra-stiff punishment.

HOWEVER, think about this: if someone breaks into your house and steals your shit, or rapes you, or physically assaults you to the point of extreme injury, who are you going to call? THE POLICE. It's a really tough job, and my hat goes off to those that do their job with conviction and responsibility. Don't let some bad apples shape your opinion of all police. I've known some good cops in my time. Don't let your anger toward some of the stupid laws here in this country make you forget that cops are people too. You might find that they act more friendly toward you if you deal with them as such.

That sounds like a totally pointless and crappy way to die. One question (and one that will be undoubtedly be brought up in court): did they crash into the cop car by losing control of their vehicle, or was it intentional? If it was intentional, they're truly scum of the earth. If it was accidental, they're just incredibly STUPID.
 

cableman26

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Alan_":p220me7v said:
I think hating all police because some choose to do their job improperly is really stupid.

I do get EXTREMELY angry when police cause the unnecessary death of a civilian through overreaction or cruelty. We've had a couple cases like that where I'm from. The cops in both cases got permanently suspended. Personally, I think they should have been thrown in the slammer, maximum sentence. If you are given the responsibility and power of upholding the law and abuse those powers, imo you should get an extra-stiff punishment.

HOWEVER, think about this: if someone breaks into your house and steals your shit, or rapes you, or physically assaults you to the point of extreme injury, who are you going to call? THE POLICE. It's a really tough job, and my hat goes off to those that do their job with conviction and responsibility. Don't let some bad apples shape your opinion of all police. I've known some good cops in my time. Don't let your anger toward some of the stupid laws here in this country make you forget that cops are people too. You might find that they act more friendly toward you if you deal with them as such.

That sounds like a totally pointless and crappy way to die. One question (and one that will be undoubtedly be brought up in court): did they crash into the cop car by losing control of their vehicle, or was it intentional? If it was intentional, they're truly scum of the earth. If it was accidental, they're just incredibly STUPID.
Well, all the other officers around the scene when it happened said that they never hit the brakes. There was no skid marks. It was also said that they just turned and headed straight toward him.

They buried Officer Pursifull and his sidekick King Sunday in a cemetery just above my house. I have never seen so many state and local police at once. It was truley touching. They used two caskets and two vehicles to transport them. They were buried together.
 

cableman26

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gaianbeatnik":3l09kdbg said:
ok -- well... i'm going to get myself hated right away...

would you all be so angry and bloodthirsty if the corpses in question weren't a pig and his trained attack dog?
what if the cops had done a "pitt maneuver" during the chase (standard practice where i come from) causing the fleeing vehicle to spin out of control and resulting in the deaths of the two TEENAGERS rather than the deputy and dog? would you be screaming for the cop in question to be tortured unto grisly extermination???

i'm sick of fascists being considered heros. i don't know how this deputy was AS A PERSON, i'm sure he had his redeeming qualities like everyone else, but being a cop is as likely to make you a villain as a hero - that's all a matter of individual perspective. personally, i just don't like cops - especially ones who exploit animals the way K9's are...

flame away - i know you probably want me dead now too...
You have every right to state your opinion, now here's mine. Let's say someone breaks in your house steals your drums, beats up your wife, and takes your car who do you call? Better yet, let's say someone's got your ass held up fixing to blow your brains out with a gun, who are you praying is going to come bounding through the door? You can dislike a certain person but why hate their whole perfession? Think about anarchy for a minute. If your young I'm sure you think that would be cool, but trust me with your attitude you wouldn't last a day. If this officer wouldn't have stopped these punks just think about who they could have ran into.
 

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gaianbeatnik":k9qpp022 said:
ok -- well... i'm going to get myself hated right away...

would you all be so angry and bloodthirsty if the corpses in question weren't a pig and his trained attack dog?
what if the cops had done a "pitt maneuver" during the chase (standard practice where i come from) causing the fleeing vehicle to spin out of control and resulting in the deaths of the two TEENAGERS rather than the deputy and dog? would you be screaming for the cop in question to be tortured unto grisly extermination???

i'm sick of fascists being considered heros. i don't know how this deputy was AS A PERSON, i'm sure he had his redeeming qualities like everyone else, but being a cop is as likely to make you a villain as a hero - that's all a matter of individual perspective. personally, i just don't like cops - especially ones who exploit animals the way K9's are...

flame away - i know you probably want me dead now too...
Though opinions are personal, maybe you should do some homework. Do criminals get put under a microscope for everything they do to vicitmize people such as yourself (obviously a fine citizen)? No ...they get put in a place where they have to sit in a room all day and play video games and watch tv and have their meals prepared for them. Oh but wait....they get told to do when to do what and when! Awww , poor them. Compared to our Military that seems somewhat similar but the Military is defending the Country while being told to do those things (willingly). Police Officers make a mistake and they get their career, family and whole life put out there for everyone to scrutinize. In my 17 years of being a "PIG" as you put it, I have seen a hell of alot more criminals hurt or kill upstanding citizens or Cops than the opposite. Criminals choose to run, Cops don't make them. And as far as the "pursuit intervention technique" (or PIT) there are guidelines for using that also and sometimes things don't work the way they are designed. We are obligated to do our jobs, scumbags are not obligated to be scumbags. Having your opinion is all yours and I can't hold it against you for hating Cops if you choose to do so, I don't like criminals myself (hold it against me)! As far as getting hated or hating...don't do it here! Peace on ya...yeah I can say that! When you willingly run into a situation that can mean life or death for not alot of money to protect others while they are running the other way write back.

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Sgt. Stump (A proud PIG)
 
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