They really do punch like crazy. I tried the Puresound beaters and I like them but they are a little too shallow. By like a half inch, small but I noticed it when my feet went farther down on the pedal.dave lynch":rk3vbzkb said:I'm trying my Cobra beaters ( felt ) with my semi older Yamaha 880s
Yeah, I use the hard side of the DW beater and I noticed by the wear that only a small portion of the top contacts the head. The Iron Cobra beaters allow you to pivot the head surface for a flush hit on the head. It makes a big difference. I also put the counterweight about half an inch away from the top of the shaft by the beater.PDP9000":35bkxyeh said:i think im going to try that cause i have a dw 5000 does
it make a big diffrence?