i HATE tehm. i got them with my E-man and i dented my batter haed right through them within 5 miutes. get the kevlar fallam. or waht i use is the danmar click pad. (not the metal one) with flt beaters. i tives a really nice attack
well i need a click sound. should i use the remo falam slam, the gibraltar click pad, the evans clear eq patch, the aquarian patch, or the danmar pdkp? i dont want th emetal kick cuz its really clicky. and btw i gunna be using the gibraltar wood beater.