Drum kit Situation

MeekaFlow

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Im in a drum situation. I dont know if i need new heads or not. i have no clue if my drums should be turned and i dont know how to turn.They dont sound right either. Im def. looking for some new cymbals and Should i save up for a new kit and get one or keep what i have? Heres some pictures.
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SGarrett

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Wow.

I'd say you need new heads. One, so they match. Two, once heads are dented they have a slight buzz to them that will never go away.

Turned...or tuned? If you mean tuned, head over to Google and search for "The Drum Tuning Bible" (without the quotation marks). If you mean turned, I'd put the rack toms a little closer together and not so angled towards each other. I'd turn the tilt of the snare straight towards me and make sure that the lowest part of the rim was close to my waist height. I'd also put the throw-off on the left side of the, near the hats. Your floor tom should be the same height as the snare and also pointing slightly towards you.

Why, you ask? Adjusting the toms will make it easier for you to play tom runs, but you also have some space issues with the bass drum. Putting the snare at waist height means that your arm is at a comfortable angle when you hit the drum instead of having to drive down into the drum. As a bonus, you won't hit the inside of your thigh with the butt-end of the stick anymore. The slight tilt just makes playing the drum easier. The same logic applies to the positioning of the floor tom. With the throw-off placement, you want to put it there for both ease of use and so that no matter where you play on the drum you're always playing over the snares which will give you a better response.

You're also hitting your cymbals a tad bit too hard. Check out the lessons here; http://www.vicfirth.com/education/drumset/domfamularo.html.
 

JAdrums2k

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SGarrett":1zyci874 said:
Wow.

I'd say you need new heads. One, so they match. Two, once heads are dented they have a slight buzz to them that will never go away.

Turned...or tuned? If you mean tuned, head over to Google and search for "The Drum Tuning Bible" (without the quotation marks). If you mean turned, I'd put the rack toms a little closer together and not so angled towards each other. I'd turn the tilt of the snare straight towards me and make sure that the lowest part of the rim was close to my waist height. I'd also put the throw-off on the left side of the, near the hats. Your floor tom should be the same height as the snare and also pointing slightly towards you.

Why, you ask? Adjusting the toms will make it easier for you to play tom runs, but you also have some space issues with the bass drum. Putting the snare at waist height means that your arm is at a comfortable angle when you hit the drum instead of having to drive down into the drum. As a bonus, you won't hit the inside of your thigh with the butt-end of the stick anymore. The slight tilt just makes playing the drum easier. The same logic applies to the positioning of the floor tom. With the throw-off placement, you want to put it there for both ease of use and so that no matter where you play on the drum you're always playing over the snares which will give you a better response.

You're also hitting your cymbals a tad bit too hard. Check out the lessons here; http://www.vicfirth.com/education/drumset/domfamularo.html.
I agree with all of that.... definitely need some new brass round that thing. Those ZBT's aren't bad for the money but go easy on them or they will shred quickly.
As far as positiioning goes make sure you put everything where you can reach it comfortably & hit it with the same amount of force. Sit at the throne and "throw" your stick into each drum with your wrist and adjust til you can find the most natural spot.. even if it looks weird... playing it naturally is more important. You want to be able to play with your wrists and not so much with your arms.. that'll help keep you from cracking the cymbals too.
Throw a new set of heads on there and rock on... drums look ok
 

SGarrett

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JAdrums2k":mg1emoo9 said:
SGarrett":mg1emoo9 said:
Wow.

I'd say you need new heads. One, so they match. Two, once heads are dented they have a slight buzz to them that will never go away.

Turned...or tuned? If you mean tuned, head over to Google and search for "The Drum Tuning Bible" (without the quotation marks). If you mean turned, I'd put the rack toms a little closer together and not so angled towards each other. I'd turn the tilt of the snare straight towards me and make sure that the lowest part of the rim was close to my waist height. I'd also put the throw-off on the left side of the, near the hats. Your floor tom should be the same height as the snare and also pointing slightly towards you.

Why, you ask? Adjusting the toms will make it easier for you to play tom runs, but you also have some space issues with the bass drum. Putting the snare at waist height means that your arm is at a comfortable angle when you hit the drum instead of having to drive down into the drum. As a bonus, you won't hit the inside of your thigh with the butt-end of the stick anymore. The slight tilt just makes playing the drum easier. The same logic applies to the positioning of the floor tom. With the throw-off placement, you want to put it there for both ease of use and so that no matter where you play on the drum you're always playing over the snares which will give you a better response.

You're also hitting your cymbals a tad bit too hard. Check out the lessons here; http://www.vicfirth.com/education/drumset/domfamularo.html.
I agree with all of that.... definitely need some new brass round that thing. Those ZBT's aren't bad for the money but go easy on them or they will shred quickly.
As far as positiioning goes make sure you put everything where you can reach it comfortably & hit it with the same amount of force. Sit at the throne and "throw" your stick into each drum with your wrist and adjust til you can find the most natural spot.. even if it looks weird... playing it naturally is more important. You want to be able to play with your wrists and not so much with your arms.. that'll help keep you from cracking the cymbals too.
Throw a new set of heads on there and rock on... drums look ok
At some point you have to use more than your wrists. The trick is correctly using the Moeller technique.
 

FiestyRedDrummEr

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I agree with all of the above.
Buy some new heads. Heads should be replaced one every three months (at the most) But it also depends on how much you play. If you are pounding out more than 2 hours a day change your heads every month. You'll be suprised by the change in tone. I can't dis you on your set. Because you're making it work. Atleast its a set. and eventually you'll get a better set. But until then ust work with the one you got. Change those heads.
Careful on the cymbals you got. They are trashed. I went through a stage when I killed a lot of cymbals. With experience and studies comes better Technique.
Turn your toms. It makes it easier to play clean. Adjust your snare to about your waist. I think all of this has been said. Good luck.
 
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