doublebass skills

seandude

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im getting a 5000 for christmass(dw) or a pearlwhatever

how do you devolup(spelling) skills as double bass how do i become a good player
 

drummert2k

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practice. learn good technique right from the beginning. otherwise you're gonna need to go back and re teach yourself. practice rudiments with your feet, get a snare book you have from like the firat 2 years of drumming and play though the book with your feet. basically whatever you would practice with your hands practice with your feet. and posture is a key here also.
 

Alcyon

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To play quickly and in time, get a metronome and play triplets (almost 100% of metal songs have triplet beats, not full 4 beats) with your feet, highhat on the first beat of the first triplet, then highhat and snare on the first beat of the second, and so on forever.

Everytime you get really comfortable with one speed (comfortable enough to play that speed locked in without the metronome) then jack up the speed by 25 bpm or something (whatever works for you).

Make sure you have everything locked in though, your feet should be solidly in the same position on the pedals, not flying everywhere, and you should be really solid, no mistakes, before you jack up the speed.

Only way really to increase your speed.
 
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Anonymous

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I'd also reccomend you check out a book on double bass drumming, there's only a few of them out there and pretty much all of them are good places to start. You might also be really interested in something like Thomas Lang's DVD "creative control", that will blow your mind and if you actually go through all the exercises your double chops will be great. I haven't gotten Lang's new DVD "creative cordination" just yet so I don't know anything on it.

Whithout any of that though I'd say just get a metronome put on about 80 and just slowly start doing 16th's and 8th note triplets with your feet and add the hands when you get comfortable. learning double bass is a lot like when you first started to learn how to play the drums, but it doesn't take to long to get used to it.
 

dahlgrendrummer

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Developing your single bass drum technique first and then getting into double bass will help with your creativity and vastly improve your speed. One thing I do as an exersise is play all my right foot parts with my left for practice, it really helps dexterity and independence.
 

Alcyon

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To do more complicated stuff, once you have the quarter-notes and triplets down, try dropping beats out of the pattern - it turns out that for double bass it's much harder to stop and start then it is to keep chugging (riding a bike for a mile is easy for your legs, sprinting back and forth is hard).
 
Practice, practice, practice. One thing that I always do is I'll only use my double pedal for patterns or a fast fill; basically whenever I need it, because too many of my friends got kind of lazy when they got their double pedal, and they need their double pedal to play a lot of things that I play on a single.
 

Bruellhanz

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first of all - i apologize for my bad english skills, i'm new at this forum..;)

well, i've made the experience learning complicated patterns on double bass is the best way to improve your double bass skills. you have to concentrate on your weak foot and not just try to play as fast as you can with both feet...
a good practise to get your weak foot up to speed is the beginning bass drum pattern of "slave labor" by fear factory.. at the beginning, that was fuckin challenging for me, but it works out;)
 

Flatliner

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I'd have to say getting thomas lang's new DVD "creative cordination" would be all you need. The first disc (about 3 hours I think) is all foot technique, just print out the PDF files and start going through the exercises, I had decent chops before I started to work these exercises but my left foot has really improved since.
 

drumur

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I have found that it's best to begin with the left foot (for right handed drummers)
For 16ths, the left would play 1e+a 2e+a 3e+a 4e+a
LRLR LRLR LRLR LRLR

OR

TRIPLETS (8TH + TWO 16THS) 1 AND A, 2 AND A, 3 AND A, 4 AND A
L R R L R R L R R L R R

snare on 2 and 4

this is a start :wink:
 
Practice not only on your pedals, but when you're sitting down also. Try play straight 8th notes just on the floor heel up or heel down. I do this during class all the time and it eventually builds up your speed and technique. It may not feel the same as a real bass pedal, but it's shure as hell on the go practicing.
 

meta L ucas

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LOTS AND LOTS OF PRACTICE. try this starting at 150 bpm, RRR LLL RRR LLL LLL RRR LLL RRR RRR LLL RRR LLL LLL RRR LLL RRR / RRRR LLLL RRRR LLLL LLLL RRRR LLLL RRRR RRRR LLLL RRRR LLLL LLLL RRRR LLLL RRRR, ECT. GO FROM 3 ON EACH FOOT TO 4, THEN TO 6, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 32, 48, 64, AND THEN PLAY ALL 16THs (RLRLRLRL) FOR ABOUT 3 MINS EACH. YOU'LL BE HURTIN BUT, IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO, YOU CAN MOVE UP. GO A LITTLE FASTER. MAYBE AN EXTRA 10 OR 15 BPM. KEEP IT CONSISTENT. KEEP MOVIN UP. GOIN FASTER. YOU'LL HAVE THE DOULE BASS GOIN ON IN MONTHS. GET BACK AT ME ON THAT.
 

mattdoesrock

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Like what drummert2k said, posture is very important. You want to try and sit up right, and not slouch. At first this may seem abit awkward (that is if you dont already) but I found that it came naturally with time.

Also dont try to bite off more than you can chew at first. Start slow and easy, nothing complex or really fast - doing that will mean that you'll most likely fail and get frustrated. Another thing to keep in mind is that you will get better - dont be impatient.

Good luck.
 

drummerboy1991

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when i first got my Gibraltar Intruder double bass, i realized my right foot was much better than left because i only had a single pedal before. one thing i did was learn how to control my left foot more and only working on it for some time until my feet were about equal. then i put combinations together with patterns, speed, and stickings( i guess u still call it tht even tho its not sticks) but anyway that was my developement
 

xdoseonex

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Alcyon":engbfj47 said:
To play quickly and in time, get a metronome and play triplets (almost 100% of metal songs have triplet beats, not full 4 beats) with your feet, highhat on the first beat of the first triplet, then highhat and snare on the first beat of the second, and so on forever.

Everytime you get really comfortable with one speed (comfortable enough to play that speed locked in without the metronome) then jack up the speed by 25 bpm or something (whatever works for you).

Make sure you have everything locked in though, your feet should be solidly in the same position on the pedals, not flying everywhere, and you should be really solid, no mistakes, before you jack up the speed.

Only way really to increase your speed.

yes and no.
there are alot of metal songs with triplet beats, but theyre are just as many with straight 4/4 double bass beats. so definately pactice both. and as for making sure your feet dont move around on the footboards thats just not true. sometimes when im playing my feet are all over the footboard using a technique very similar to tim yeung. watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=sMOj9tHdhhY
 

lackadaisical

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Hey guys, I'm Daniel. I'm new to the forum.

Anyways, I would recommend switching to axis long board pedals and learning how to play heel up efficiently. proper technique.

I play on DW 9000 for the funk, rock, and jazz stuff. But for metal and really fast double bass, axis just goes the fastest and is the most consistent, and easiest pedal for me to play on.
 
i kind of do both, and its weird b/c ppl always give me crap but actually, in some cases I was better than those guys. I have my heals on the bass drum pedals the whole time and don't lift my legs at all. But like if I play 'st.anger' i lift my leg. I'm not nearly as fast, but like the little 'solo' in Surfacing - Slipknot. I can keep up with that. But I'm learning
 

PDP9000

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when i started i wasn't really good becuase my right leg was stronger then my left leg :( but then every day for about 3 months i played with my left foot only and i but a wight on it when i played so it helped me now im really good a double bass
 

evolusean13

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DO NOT use leg. use ankle. that is how these crazy death metal guys get so fast. dont pound the crap out of your pedals. not necessary. tune the drum to a point where its loud. maybe buy some triggers. ;) technique is the most important. ANKLES!
 
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