well the music that I'm playing is just simple straightforward 4/4 so I don't have a problem with odd time ;] and I have to play because of all the adrenaline I tend to start the songs at a way too high tempo and then the guitarist always gives me that "I'll kill you" look
Playing with a click live is brilliant, I use a cheapy little 4 track berhinger mixer for my headphone amp, have used smaller pm amps but found you have more room to mix your own monitors with a little desk, Best thing to do is buy yourself some really good headphones like shure Ec2 thats what i use, i could put a click on without an amplifier and still hear it using these! Money well spent!
My students and I love the TAMA Rhythm Watch to death, for practice purposes only though.
For band rehearsals I set the metronome to the proper bpm so everyone in the band gets used to playing at the correct speed then after a couple of run throughs we all just feel the beat.
I think it would be way too mechanical to use it live plus we extent the shit out of parts and improv some stuff so it would probably be a pain in the ass to follow the click through those parts.
we've used a click when we perform our live soundtrack for the film Nosferatu; it's very helpful when we can't see each other onstage in the dark and it keeps us locked in for visual cues.
Even if you're using a click, you can push and pull against it to keep it feeling 'human.' Takes a little practice, but I think everyone would benefit from being able to play to a click. Most studio situations will require it.
When performing to a click, we use in-ear monitors and the signal is sent from the main board.
Yes. I use a Tama Rhythm Watch every single time I play. I have a guitar player that uses a lot of rhythmic delays and effects. I don't have to hear him to know that we're locked. It also provides a great way to make sure that the songs are the same speed live as they are on the record. Doing that makes editing video very easy.
In order to get the volume at a level that I can hear it above all the noise on stage, I use the Rhythm Watch plugged into a Samson S-Amp headphone amplifier and then I use a pair of Shure in-ear monitors to block out most of the stage volume. I have to be perfect every night because I can rarely hear anything besides my drums and some of the vocals.
yes i have a yamaha click station and i run it through my wireless in ear moniotor... i can hear my bass and lead through the one channel then i have the click through the second channel. turn down channel one with your instruments and turn up the click. works great. If you are having a hard time playing smoothly or becomming to ridged turn on the subdivision it helps alot.
i dont use a click live, because i think it sort of ruins the atmosphere(for rock, metal, punk, or anything fast) at (fast) shows, everything is supposed to be crazy and i think the faster tempo really adds to it. however for slower things, a click would be a good idea, so u can really lock in the groove
In my last band, we played everything to a click because of our sequencer. I used a mackie sub-mixer and isolation headphones. I really didn't mind playin with a click. I liked it in the background, you can play a little in front or behind it depending what you are doing. Just make it audible enough that you are on time. And if you go off a little here or there, it's ok. It's just music in the end.
My new band however doesn't play to any clicks and is way more free. I have a pair of Shure E5's and they rock! They would also be great for a click. I'm still workin on my monitor situation. I would reccomend the E5's to anyone, saves hearing and sounds great!
I use a click live occasionally. Usually I will use it at CRUCIAL gigs where the timing has to be on the MONEY. I also use it when someone is filming us, it makes sync up to studio tracks MUCH easier. We use it at every single practice through the first run, then I'll turn it off on the second. My band has a LOT of odd time and tempo changes, we are kinda of like a watered down Despised Icon with more Hardcore in us. The best thing I found for this is a Boss DR-670 drum machine. I programmed patterns for all the time sigs I need using a cowbell sound, then figure out how many measures I play before the change, then I just chain together individule songs.
I've been thinking about those Shure EC3 or EC5 but they're soooo expensive
Anyway now I'm using AKG K-66 with a Behringer BA400 Amp and a Korm MA-30 metronome it's cheap and it works
However as the band is planning on adding a loop (I don't know if it will be run from a sequencer or a laptop or whatever) so I'm thinking I'll need a little mixer... what would you recommend?
Depends - when I'm playing for a gig, I'll get each setlist for the night and write the tempos along the side of the sheet for reference. Then, I program them into my TAMA Rythm Watch. For gigs, I just need the tempo for the start of the song, and don't usually use the click the whole way through.
When I'm playing for church, I have been playing to a click because the standard of playing is a lot higher than a gig. I just grabbed an index card and wrote all the tempos from the album down and now I can use that for reference if they change the songlist at the last minute.