Die Cast Hoops

DrumsPlus

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What are the advantages and disadvantages of die cast hoops? Should die cast hoops only be used on snares or would the work well on your other drums?
 

dammow

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they can be used on toms too, tama starclassics and some gretsch kits have them as standard.

i think they just stronger and distribute the tension more evenly although i have heard that on toms they can choke or dampen the drum but i wouldnt have thought tama and gretsch would put them on if this was the case!

i think they look cool though!
 

Timekeep69

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Due to their weight, they choke the resonance a little but they also keep the drum from going out of round and protect the shell (bearing edges) better than 2.3mm hoops but I think they are overkill on toms. Maybe if they were cheaper they'd be more feasable.
 

Rockula!

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Timekeep69":2bt3elst said:
Due to their weight, they choke the resonance a little but they also keep the drum from going out of round and protect the shell (bearing edges) better than 2.3mm hoops but I think they are overkill on toms. Maybe if they were cheaper they'd be more feasable.
I cannot debate this point but I can tell you that I insist on die cast hoops for my batter side on my snares because I play mostly rimshots
Nothing like a big ole chunk of metal under that stick to give you a crack that will cut through concrete

I would think resonant heads would not require die cast and agree that toms would just be overkill
 

DrumsPlus

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Rockula!":ln7a2hji said:
Timekeep69":ln7a2hji said:
Due to their weight, they choke the resonance a little but they also keep the drum from going out of round and protect the shell (bearing edges) better than 2.3mm hoops but I think they are overkill on toms. Maybe if they were cheaper they'd be more feasable.
I cannot debate this point but I can tell you that I insist on die cast hoops for my batter side on my snares because I play mostly rimshots
Nothing like a big ole chunk of metal under that stick to give you a crack that will cut through concrete

I would think resonant heads would not require die cast and agree that toms would just be overkill
The reason I ask is because I play a ton of rimshots but destroy sticks because of it. Is it going to be more punishing to my sticks and hands?
 

Rockula!

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My experience says yes
Die casts tend to have a bit higher profile
My Hulk Snare has marching die cast and it has a very high profile indeed
I go through sticks a lot but I go through heads and cymbals too
 

xdoseonex

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My gretsch renown maple has all diecast hoops. batter and resonant side. I want some blac ones for my snare but ned to find them at a decent price. I think they would be a litte better for when i hit my knicke on my snare because they are alot or rouded than a tripe flange
 

anavrinIV

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i have them all around my kiit and have no complaints at all. the do make rimshots sound killer, and i dont think that they choke my toms at all.
 

drumur

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They have to be tensioned in smaller increments the triple flange hoops.
a 1/4 turn can make a big difference with die cast. That's probably why people have problems with choking. It's because they can't be tuned the same way.
I have them on my masters.
Once each lug is a half turn, I raise them in fractions of a 1/4 turn or less. With triple flange I would use 1/4 or 1/2 turns
 

Alcyon

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Can anyone recommend some good snares with diecast hoops? Or a place that sells 13 or 14" hoops?
 

anavrinIV

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Alcyon":12q1797r said:
Can anyone recommend some good snares with diecast hoops? Or a place that sells 13 or 14" hoops?
amdrumparts.com, drummaker.com, drumfoundry.com

all of those sell all the parts necessary to make a drum. also check out jamminsam.com, he sells wraps, lugs, and rods but i dont know about hoops.
 
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