Cleaning cymbals/repaired cymbals?

Joezeppi

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Does cleaning a cymbal make it sound different? Better or worse?
How badly would the sound be effected of a repaired cymbal where they cut out a section of it to stop a crack from growing?
Example:
 

b b253

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Joezeppi":1c1mvads said:
Does cleaning a cymbal make it sound different? Better or worse?
How badly would the sound be effected of a repaired cymbal where they cut out a section of it to stop a crack from growing?
Example:
um i would think it would be brighter. because there is less of it. idk tho.
 

antiunderscores

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it would stop the outer reaches of the cymbal (lower frequencies) communicating with the other side around the "repair." if it's only a small chunk taken out it would affect it, but whether or not it "ruins" it is up for debate. A large chunk like that or a repair job carried out poorly would adversely affect the sound, really its a risk to buy a cymbal you havent heard, but it is even a greater risk to buy a cymbal you havent heard before the damage, and you havent watched over during repair so buying a "repaired" cymbal is a hUGE risk.
 

Alan_

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as far as I'm concerned, once they crack I'm done with them, except for special effects.
 

shine.fm-youth

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i've made stacks out of cracked cymbals friends have given me,
but i've never even cracked a cymbal myself
i'd be plenty pissed if i did i bet
 

Joezeppi

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what do you mean stacks of cymbals, cracked or not? Do you mean placing two cymbals on top of one another similar to how a hi hat is set up? What would this do sound wise? Please explain I've never heard of this term.
 

Alan_

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I've cracked a couple. At the time I was using marching sticks and playing grindcore in an EXTREMELY loud band.
 

shine.fm-youth

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Joezeppi":3k44ax2d said:
what do you mean stacks of cymbals, cracked or not? Do you mean placing two cymbals on top of one another similar to how a hi hat is set up? What would this do sound wise? Please explain I've never heard of this term.

ahhh like a 14" china on top of a 16" crash
or a 16" china on top of a 18" china (i use this in my set up now)
with a felt inbetween them
it makes for a really awesome sound....
 

Call me Gideon

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I think if done properly a cymbal that has been cracked and repaired will sound fine. In high school I saw a kid from a rival pep band that had 2 that had cut outs in them. One had one and the other had two areas cut out. Rather than just cutting out the small section where it was cracked they had cut larger sections in a cruved cut and then groud and posished the edges of the cuts to smooth them out. I was amazed. Both cymbals still sounded good. not incredible but good.
 

vincemie

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as far as cleaning goes it will make a difference in sound if your cymbal is really soiled and then you clean it really good. is that difference good or bad? thats up to you. i personally do not ever clean my cymbals, and if you ever tried to clean a vintage k people would try to stab you.
 

Potatoe Snack

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Alan_":2qda93oa said:
as far as I'm concerned, once they crack I'm done with them, except for special effects.
thats how i view it as well.
i once had a z custom years ago that cracked. when it cracked, it sounded like CRAP. i didn't have any money to buy a new crash, so i kept using it. a chunk finally flew off and it started sounding pretty good again. then another piece would fall off and it sounded horrible again. just kept changing with different parts that fell off, although it never sounded as good as it did originally. eventually i replaced it and it sat in the closet at my rehearsal space. then i left the band and left it there. i figure i'll never see it again. but no ones crying over it...

moral of the story is...cymbals can't be trusted.

i recently saw a Saluda ride cymbal going on ebay that was shaped like a rounded square. it even says in the auction that it really doesn't have anything going for it. nonetheless, its crazy how people will try to sell junk cymbals. some of them might have cool/different sounds, but for the most part, a broke cymbal is a broke cymbal.
 

PDP9000

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i think if that much is taken out it would make it sound really bright but the chunck
out of the cymbal mite make it not ring as much and just make a short sound then choke.
 
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