Like you said blast beats are only really used in one kind of music. I play in a metal band and for a time the old singer wanted blast after blast . They're cool when used sparingly I think, like anything, if you keep doing it, it gets boring ( and tires you out). Charlie from Anthrax is great at throwing in a little blast here or there and it works. Then you get proper Death Metal bands where the drummer blasts all the way through the song and his whole kit's triggered and it just sounds LAME!
I agree they're cool when used sparingly. I listen to alot of bands that use em. Mostly death metal. I never had any desire to learn how to do em,untill my last band. Flo from Cryptopsy,and John Longstreth (Origin/Red Chord) are some of my faves for blast beats. Charlie from Anthrax is one of the most underrated drummers. He is incredible,but never gets the credit he deserves. He's one hell of a guitar player too.
I use them in the band I play for now, and I have to say, they are one of the hardest things to do right that carry such a simple concept. I use multiple kinds of blasts and only do them in occasional spots, there are a few parts that I carry out blasts for over a minute.
Blast beats arent only classified under death metal genre though.
Black metal harnesses blast beats a fair bit, almost to an overkill some instances.
I would say to check out Flo monier (not sure of spelling) and Nick Barker for awsome blast beats.
Also see the song blessings upon the throne of tyranny for awsome blasts from band Dimmu Borgir,and drummer Nick barker.
My personal fav :twisted:
Is it true that the former dimmu borgir drummer Nick barker triggers his drums?
If so what advantages does triggering hav on a persons kit and their playing ability? Does it help in anyway to improve blasts aswell?
Yes Nick Barker does trigger his drums. A lot of death/black metal drummers do, especially their bass drums. Triggers don't have any effect on the persons playing ability but they make a huge difference to the sound. If you're not sure how triggers work then let me explain.....The trigger is an electronic sensor that sits on the drum head and is linked up to some kind of sound module(brain), which is run through the PA. Everytime you hit the drum it triggers a signal to the brain and that produces the sound through the PA. You are basically playing your acoustic kit but with the controls of an electronic kit. Most people dampen the drums down so that they hardly make any acoustic noise and tyhen all you'll hear is the triggered sound. What that means is that you can set the velocity response on the brain so that no matter how hard you hit the drum you always get the same volume sound. That allows people to blast at ridiculous speeds because they are hardly hitting the drum and not using as much energy as a guy who is untriggered.
Personally I can't stand the sound of a triggered kit, bass drums I can see why but the rest of the drums sound shite when triggered.
Blast Beats really are used in all forms of extreme metal.From Black Metal to War Metal...I've even heard some doom metal with blast beats that will rotate heads.But I don't think they are used in just such context.I have heard alot of Jazz where mild blasts are performed.Its a good accent in the right context out of extreme metal.Especially when performed single bass,snare,and riding the splashes in the end of a song.
How many forms...way too many.Obviously the classic heavy metal,hair metal,thrash metal,doom metal,black metal,white metal ( similar to black only very religion based ) death metal,war metal,nu-metal,Power Metal.. and I am sure there is a few I'm not thinking of.Metal is a very diverse form of music which is awsome since there are so many avenues in which to explore.
Someone that can blast without triggers that is as amazing as Nick Barker is Derek Roddy. None of his kit is triggered and he doesn't even trigger it for recording with his band. I don't believe full songs should involve blast beats and I can't stand blast beats with nothing added to it. Nick Barker is a great example, he adds a lot of jazzy accents into it and influenced me to do the same.
I have played in a death-metalband for 4 years, GOREZONE. and about blastbeats, hm I like to play them because there is so much Power( If you play a fast DB-beat than some cymbals and ...fast forward . The basic from the blastbeats where used 40 years ago by the whole jazzers. So a nice FUCK YOU to all "METALLHEADS" who thought that metal has create the blasts.(also the GRAVITYBLAST..one handed roll is the right name)
To trigger the whole set is IMO not nessesary. I trigger the BD because at the higher speed DB I didnt have the same punch as on the slow parts (I think a lot of people have the problem)
About Hannes from NECROPHAGIST he is a Jazz drummer(he has practice it for a long time and he is a really good drummer. Hes one of two germans who is member of the http://www.halfmanhalfmachine.net Ok IÂ´m the second one :wink:
So keep cool and play what you want, be openminded we can learn from each other, even a good drummer can learn from a not so good drummer
Like I said, Hannes from Necrophagist is the real deal, you should see this guy play jazz!! I watched him have a drum off with every other drummer at Show Of The Summer in Virginia this year, not one could play like him.
Ok first off I have to disspell what the guy above said about Derek Roddey not using triggers. He triggers his bass drum, for this I am sure. I am a huge fan of Roddey and i've watched every video of his that I can find.
Derek uses a trigger that attaches right onto his Axis pedals so that there is no mis-triggering from the batter head if you hit a low tom.
But as for blast beats, I love playing them, I could play them for hours on end if I could. But when it comes to applying them to my band's music, then I use them sparingly. I love the power behind the blast, and how whenever someone hears a blast in the middle of a song, their head turns straight to the drummer.
And blast beats are not just confined to the death metal genera like most people would like to believe. Adrian Erlandsson (spelling?) of the band "Cradle of Filth", which is a black metal band, will throw in a blast beat if the song calls for it.
And thinking back..someone had already mentioned blasting not being just a death metal thing. My bad!!