REALLY! I find I always get the sodding patch off centre and then it won't come off!cgaffka":3bn7q1gz said:u can always do it the free way, or atleast cheaper way. take an old snare head or any head really, i like using snare heads mainly because of the batter. cut a rectangle, or square if your not using double bass, out of the head big enough to fit the area of your pedal mallots. use some good ol duct tape and patch it right onto your bass drum head. works great. problem with the bass drum patches is they never stick! they always peel n just dont work for me. usin an old head is basically the same thing!