increasing base foot endurance and speed?

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Post Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:13 pm

hey i'm new here, been learning to play drums for about 6 months and i don't have my own kit just a practice pad andi am wondering about techniques to increase endurance and speed?
Also with my mummy daddy roles they need some improvement do i just keep practicing them or is there a special excercise to increase the wrist flrxibility so to flick it quicker?
thanks..
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Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:10 am

anyone? please?
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Post Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:07 pm

Howdy, and welcome to the forums.

Are you wanting exercises for hands or feet?

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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:34 am

Grey_fox: as for endurance here's what helped me (it's basically built on Derek Roddys method but as I am too lazy for his entire workout I've made up my own)

1. WARM UP!!! (I use Weckl's triplets to warm up:
LLL RRRx10
LLL LLL RRR RRRx10
LLL LLL LLL RRR RRR RRRx10
LLL LLL LLL LLL RRR RRR RRR RRRx10
I always do that in 80, 100, 110 and 120 bpm and I feel ready to go :))
2. To gain endurance you have to work on your muscles stamina so I just play straigh 16 notes for 2 minutes in a given tempo and then speed up I usually start in 140bpm and finish in 165bpm so it looks like this:
140->145->150->155->160->165 (it should give you something like 12 minutes of continuos playing w/ your feet)
now, if you can't make it to 160 than play slower for a longer period of time
3. Another thing that helped me were quads: LLLL RRRR I practice them as 16notes in 80->90->100bpm (still working on going faster:) )
4. The last thing that really helped out my feet was a lot of bike riding :)

Hope this helps and mind you - I'm not really fast w/my feet so It'd be great if someone else wrote something
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:39 pm

heres 2 exercises for ya. both can be applied to hands or feet.
the first one is a really good exercise from the last thomas lang video. start slow and work your way up. the key here at first is control, not speed. once you have control of the accents and the inner beats then you can take it up a few clicks on the metronome. and yes, as much as it can be frustrating using a metronome it keeps you from naturally slowing down due to fatigue. the metronome will push you so you cant slow down. *note how every other time through it starts on a differant hand/foot. i know its hard leading with your weaker hand but this does this so you can work both hands/feet equaly
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heres a good Jeff Queen exercise. working with "accent/tap" exercises help to build control with you will need for speed. work this one with a metronome and get this ripping up to speed.

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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:07 pm

One good easy way to build up endurence and control is to do a drill called 8-8-16. Its pretty simple. Play 8 notes in the RH, 8 notes in the LH, and 16 in the RH. Continue by playing 8 in the LH, 8 in the RH, and 16 in the LH, and stop. There, that wasn't so hard, was it? Now, just keep increasing the tempo, till your blazing at 160+. It's lots of fun, and you build up control,endurence, and, amazingly enough, muscle memory, key to playing.

I'll put some more drills and exercises as soon as they come to me.

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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:43 pm

Thanks i shall get going on that and as i don't have a kit just tapping my foot on the floor is alright or is there a special way to that but i find when i do that my feet tend to start moving back like to a 60 degree angle instead of straight 90 degree down.
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:04 pm

Ok this is a real rookie question but i havn't done much reading of music in my lessons yet but on my computers metrenome is the quaver with the two lines at the top the 16th note as i know quaver with a hole in the bottom is worth 2 beats and a full one is one then i'm guessing the one with 1 line is a quarter note? i have probably just worked this out for myself hehe :oops:
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:08 pm

ok with the 16th notes starting at 140 bpm noway my feet are that fast i think i should start on 100 bpm! my left leg is still weak as i hardly use it because i don't do double bass yet!
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:32 pm

grey_fox wrote:Ok this is a real rookie question but i havn't done much reading of music in my lessons yet but on my computers metrenome is the quaver with the two lines at the top the 16th note as i know quaver with a hole in the bottom is worth 2 beats and a full one is one then i'm guessing the one with 1 line is a quarter note? i have probably just worked this out for myself hehe :oops:


the note with just the stem sticking up is a quarter note. the one with one line across the top is an 8th note

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Post Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:52 am

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Post Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:32 pm

drummert2k wrote:heres 2 exercises for ya. both can be applied to hands or feet.
the first one is a really good exercise from the last thomas lang video.
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one question about it... the last triplet group how can you fit nine 16 note triplets into a quaternote? as far as my knowledge of such things goes there should be only six...
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Post Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:21 pm

they are triplets phrased within a triplet. you're taking an 8th note triplet and turning each note of the triplet into its own triplet hence 9 notes. there would be only six notes if it would stay phrased in douple meter (like the rest of the bar) but beat four is phrased in a triplet just so the next bar will start on the opposite hand. its hard to explain. if anyone else can explain this better please do.
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Post Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:54 pm

drummert2k is right take a quarter note and make it into a 8th note triplets and split each of those triplets into 16th note triplest etvoila:

O - quarternote
X X X - 8th note triplet
xxx xxx xxx - 16th note triplets
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Post Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:58 am

I was taught a very easy way to increase speed for feet and for hands.....

look at a clock (60 bpm)

do quarter notes x2 (R L R L)

8th notes x2 (RL RL)

triplets x2 (RLR LRL)

16th notes x2 (RLRL RLRL)

Quituplets x2 (RLRLR LRLRL)

sixtuplet x2 (RLRLRL RLRLRL RLRLRL RLRLRL)

septuplet x2 (RLRLRLR LRLRLRL RLRLRLR LRLRLRL)

32nd notes x2 (RLRLRLRL RLRLRLRL RLRLRLRL RLRLRLRL)

32nd Triplets x2 (RLRLRLRLR LRLRLRLRL RLRLRLRLR LRLRLRLRL)

Then Back Down and Up again, most importantly practice leading with both hands...

Have fun with this one it really helped me speed and control and keep upping the bpm as you feel your ready