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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:46 am

TrunJun wrote:trust me man, you may not feel it, but it definetly does dehydrate you. colleges have been studying it for years and I learned this from my old AA hockey coach. Just stick to water, its way better for you anyways. If you think gatorade/powerade will help, trust me because it wont. Water is MUCH better for you. It will also make you feel better than drinking any sport drink. The only thing I drink before a show besides water (and of course whiskey, which i use water to balance out the dehydrating effects of alcohol with) is the occasional Red Bull.


You're gonna sit here and tell me that Gatorade, a drink with sugars and electrolytes, is bad for me and not to drink it when I KNOW for a fact it doesn't do anything bad to me, meanwhile you drink whisky (contains ALCOHOL) and balance it out with water ???, and then drink Redbull, which contains about 5 teaspoons of sugar and 80 mg of caffiene (a stimulant), a drug that messes with your pharmacology, especially when you have it combating a depressant (remember that ALCOHOL you drank?) which is bad, mmmmk? Especially when they had been considering taking Red Bull off of the market because of what's happened to people that drink it with Vodka??

Ok man. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:48 am

im not trying to argue man, and i dont drink any more than 1-2 shots before a gig. I'm just saying, water is much much more of an effective thing for you to drink than gatorade/powerade/sports drinks. do the research man, anything with a composition like sports drinks will dehydrate you. Its just the truth man, no need to get your panties in a twist lol
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:53 am

TrunJun wrote:im not trying to argue man, and i dont drink any more than 1-2 shots before a gig. I'm just saying, water is much much more of an effective thing for you to drink than gatorade/powerade/sports drinks. do the research man, anything with a composition like sports drinks will dehydrate you. Its just the truth man, no need to get your panties in a twist lol


Nah dude it's all good. I'm not mad. :D I just got a little carried away with that. I mean seriously look at what you just said about what you do. It's just a tad ridiculous don't you think?

I have looked into it. I know a fair bit about pharmacology and what chemicals do to you and where in the brain.
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:56 am

aye, i agree with you about the red bull too. when i cant get my hands on some ginseng/taurine its what i use to substitute. also, it helps just a tad bit when i go through those sleepless nights. someone should develope a drink for musicians (especially drummers) that acts as an upper but with less harmful effects. Red bull definetly sucks and i hate to use it, but hey, gotta sometimes.
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:59 am

TrunJun wrote:aye, i agree with you about the red bull too. when i cant get my hands on some ginseng/taurine its what i use to substitute. also, it helps just a tad bit when i go through those sleepless nights. someone should develope a drink for musicians (especially drummers) that acts as an upper but with less harmful effects. Red bull definetly sucks and i hate to use it, but hey, gotta sometimes.


I'll admit you have me curious now about the Gatorade though. Like I said, I haven't experienced anything bad, but I'm going to look into it more just to make sure. Thanks.
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:03 am

well, i actually would agree with you about that too... it is really more different strokes for different folks but i just try to avoid it and stick to the good ol' h2o. anything mind altering (besides good ol' mary jane) doesnt sit too well with me and i just try to keep it regimented and clean as i can.

ive been brainwashed by all these health addicted hockey coaches/jazz drum teachers and they warped my fagile little mind. drugs didnt have anything to do with it, i swear!! :P
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:05 am

TrunJun wrote:well, i actually would agree with you about that too... it is really more different strokes for different folks but i just try to avoid it and stick to the good ol' h2o. anything mind altering (besides good ol' mary jane) doesnt sit too well with me and i just try to keep it regimented and clean as i can.

ive been brainwashed by all these health addicted hockey coaches/jazz drum teachers and they warped my fagile little mind. drugs didnt have anything to do with it, i swear!! :P


Haha. Like you said water is definitely the best thing for you. No doubt about that!
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:05 am

err... we could all snort some coke and be like (overrated) niel pert lol...
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:10 am

TrunJun wrote:err... we could all snort some coke and be like (overrated) niel pert lol...

Wooaaahh!!! Don't even go there man. :P There's no proof he does that shit all the time, though he drinks Scotch like a fish and admits to partaking of the greenery every now and then.... even wrote a song about it! Ha! Over rated? You're entitled to your opinion.

You're a Kollias fan, so I still respect you.

But then again, you play in a Metalcore band.

Nuff said. :lol:
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:14 am

yea i know a lotta people like pert, and i was just joking lol.

if had my way tho, i wouldnt be playin metalcore. just doin it for the local exposure here in denver. but hey, the kids love it and we get pretty good turn outs. I wanna play in something nile-esq but nobody likes foreign-styled death metal out here. i'll admit, it kinda pisses me off tho when I see kids slam dancing at our shows. it makes me wonder wtf ever happened to moshing.

and yes, Kollias is fucking sick as hell lol. I also like Dave Haley a lot too... gotta give it up to those crazy tazmanian death metal bands hehe
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:17 am

Well, this thread has gone way off topic.....

Haha.
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:20 am

yes it has lol... so with that, we'll just say skip over page 2 and only read page 1 since its the only one with anything referencing to drumming warmups. and like we all said earlier, just make sure your breathing techniques are good, learn some kung fu and EAT BABIES!!
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Post Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:15 pm

Oh yeah, I try to make it a point to stretch from mid back to shoulders to finger stretches that help out your hands in not getting cramped up before playing and to stretch my legs from top to bottom.

I listen to some Neil Peart of Rush and maybe some Lamb of God or Mudvayne to get pumped up, and before a show I try to do what I can to go off into a corner somewhere and work on some simple single stroke rolls, doubles, paradidles, flams etc, with some thick marching sticks to help in speed etc, it definately helps in my playing.


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Post Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:26 am

Aside from the usual stretching and flexing of all your muscles, a real nice and quick way to warm up your hands/wrists/arms is to run through a few rudiments with a pair of stiff wire brushes held in the air. The resistance and tension used to control the brushes really works those muscles and you’ll feel the effect after only a couple of minutes. Plus when you switch back to sticks, the sticks seem to fly around the kit with ease. It’s a trick my drum instructor showed me and I’ve used it ever since before a gig or practice.
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Post Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:12 pm

About 20 - 30 minutes before a show, I'll do some pushups, stretches, whatever to get a little sweat up and to loosen muscles. I also make sure to do neck stretches as I sometimes get a little nuts during the show and wake up with a bad neck if I don't. After getting the body loose, I'll soak the hands under hot water. This is something I learned from Tommy Lee. It really gets the blood flowing through the hands, wrists, and fingers and it softens the calluses a little so it's easier to grip the sticks. I then start rudiments on a practice pad using a heavier stick than I play. I really like the Mike Mangini's. they're made of laminated birch which is really heavy but they're also the same size of my Promark sticks I use (720 Intruder Hickory). I always make sure whatever rudiments I do, I start slow and do them leading with the left hand as well as the right. By then I'm usually very loose, warmed up and ready to rock without having to break through that wall we all have hit during the 2nd song.