Damping the toms?

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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:30 pm

mapexdrummer wrote:its all in the tuning fellas :D


Not really. Sometimes we're at the mercy of the respective talents, or lack thereof, of soundmen.

In an ideal world we'd never have to dampen anything. But of course it also depends on the sound you want. I've often thrown a towel over a drum if that was the sound I wanted for a particular song.
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:03 pm

Well yeh it's just personal preference on the sound that a drum makes whether its nice or not

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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:04 pm

I think the right choice of heads and sizes is the key. Bohnam had 14 16 18 toms and he didn't dampen them. He just had the right heads and tuned them well. Also I believe the shallower the kick drums, the less you have to dampen them.
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:17 pm

i use moongels, no tape is touching my drumheads! moongels work better than most other ways of muffling i find, and moongels dont leave any sticky stuff all over your heads.
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Post Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:09 pm

at the moment i dont use anything but when im recording i like the attack sound of toms with a little resonance.
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:55 pm

I don't dampen. It's all in the heads and tuning.
I've gotten some nasty drums to sound good. I think the worst set was some old low end Ludwigs made out of particle wood. They weren't even round...neither were the hoops.
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Heads and tuning that's it. If the sound guy sucks that bad, kick him in the nuts, set everything the way it should be (not hard) and threaten to kick him in the nuts again if he changes it. Sound guys will do whatever you want if you manhandle them a bit.
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:00 pm

It's all about the E-rings baby!

But! if you wanna get that cool, almost tympani sound out of your lower toms, then dampening is for u. Most drummers i know dampen to eliminate ringing and overtones which in turn soft snare rattle.

But in any case, E rings are the way to go :o
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:18 pm

looks like I'm not the only one who likes wide open kit tone, but, as an engineer as well, I find that a little dampening can be very mic friendly when your mixing, a hint of the right verb and bamm.....big drums. But live.....I wouldn't even think about it, it was already said. It's all in the tuning which has taken me forever to refine.
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:20 pm

and yes....if all else fails....kick him in the nuts. At my house, we prefer the paiste gong mallet. Always a good time
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:59 pm

Depending on how deep your toms are and what kind of wood shell you have and what size they are i.e. 13/12 ect Most of them with an evans G2 dont need anything.But the aquarian I and II are perfect for most bassdrums.

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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:15 pm

moongels.
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:49 pm

NO ?

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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:19 pm

i dont use dampening of any sort. my evans g2's on the batter side cancel out the ring from the thinner g1's on bottom. also when playing rather loud, you dont need to worry about dampening as you wont hear the quieter ringing/overtone. if your playing quietly i reccomend using e-rings. they cut out just enough without choking the sound of the drum.
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:26 pm

I used to use E-Rings, I used to think they were great but I don't think that anymore

I dont recommend any dampening as then you become dependant on them, and what happens when you cant find something to dampen your drums with?

You're fucked! cause you've forgotten how to tune from using em for so long
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Post Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:59 pm

I tune them to sound big, but being in a cover band, some songs have flat ,thuddy toms, so I throw the zero rings on. I tune my snare to ring like Bonham, but most songs are a flat shotgun sound, so I have a ring on the snare most of the night.
I use rings as an effect, not a crutch for bad tuning.