Z custom cymbals

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Post Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:37 am

I like the way Z's sound, but they do tend to be loud. Someone borrowed one of my Z crashes and cracked it, but I never cracked one personally. I switched to A Customs because the sound and volume seemed to be more appropriate for playing in garages, and other small locations, as well as recording. I tried recording with Z Custom crashes and had a lot of problems with clipping.
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Post Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:20 pm

iv heard em and like em but idk how its ginna go with getting some for my church....maybe to loud...not that its ginna STOP me =D but ya im gettin like....3 soon i hope
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Post Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:55 pm

I personally dont much care for z customs. Just something about them. they seem brittle too. but ive never broken a cymbal. If you were going with zildjian, id say A customs or A series. I started transitioning my cymbals to A's, just need two crashes and i'll enjoy my cymbal setup.
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:35 am

dammow wrote:i guess everybody plays slightly different so its really personal taste!


you said it all... no one plays exactly the same, therefor different cymbals are gonna last longer, and may even sound a little different among different players. just take your set of sticks you use most into the drum shop and see what sounds good to your ear.
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:54 am

Fact: hard hitting drummers tend to go for Z customs, they crack easily because they get hit hard.

I've played A custom projections, Ks etc and the Zs definitely last a lot longer.

Fact: Z customs will last longer than A customs, they are build more solidly.

I play Z custom medium rock crashes, it's a nice balance of sound/projection/dynamics/durability. Of course it's just down to personal prefferance at the end of the day. If your a hard hitting metal drummer, Z customs are great, if your a fast light hitting death metal drummer or jazz player they probably arnet for you, if you wanna stay with Zildjian look to the Ks or A customs.

I've also got some Z custom hi hats which sound great. Once again I need something quite loud to keep up with my loud snare. Thank god for pro plugs hey?!
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:03 am

I had a 17" & 18" Z custom crashes and they are great for cutting through loud rock music in a live situation. A bit too loud in the rehearsal room with a slow decay due to their wieght. I thought these would handle a real bashing but both cracked just outside the warranty period! Definately rock crashes. So if you have an A grade endorsement and can just renew them when you want...fine... but otherwise shop around. I now have a 17" A custom medium crash and a 17" K-custom dark crash. These have already outlasted my Z's but i actually had a dream last night that there was a big split along the groove of my K custom crash... in my dream i was mortified...as soon as I woke today i went into the garage and had a look just to make sure I was only dreaming!
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:15 am

i myself have / had a set of z customs

as others have said, they crack very easily, they are indeed very loud, maybe too loud for rehearsals and small live shows
but damn the hats are good (however i did mess up when i got my ride, i got a 22 power ride, and i so wish i got the 20 or 22 mega bell, i was young, i just saw the size of it and had to have it, idiot!)

the smaller of the range however semm very strong, and dont crack anywhere near as fast as the 19" rock crash of mine did, unlike others though, mine cracked from the edge inwards, from 2 places, and is now sounding more like a large nasty chuck of metal everyday, but my 16 which split at the midpoint (between bell and rim) and still sounds ok, to say its been split for 3 years or more now (its lasted longer, whilst cracked, than my 19" did in its entirity)

if you are a soft hitter, Z's maybe a very good cymbal for you, as the power wont be too over the top, but if you hit hard, i would probably suggest K customs (i have never used A customs, im too poor)

i would also like to add that i have never had a cymbal with as short a lifespan as the paiste rude which i had for 6 months, i hit pretty hard (not as bad nowadays, but a few years ago all i did was hit hard, pretty much before i learned how to play with a modicum of talent)
so for the hard hitters out there, get thin flexible cymbals (not cheap ones, they sound shit) through my experience, no matter what anybody tells you, thin & flexy is good for us ive always had chunky rigid cymbals, and im lucky to make them last over a year
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:34 am

disrupt13 wrote:z custom are know to crack easily, they are good but they crack easily, a customs are just awesosem ,but check out the K's too.


wow, that's strange, because i was always under the impression that z customs were designed for durability... strange.

Yea A customs are more expensive though because they have a better sound. the z customs have that raw/unrefined sound to them, and a customs just sound more musical... loud as shit though.
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:36 am

AK-Drummer wrote:iv heard em and like em but idk how its ginna go with getting some for my church....maybe to loud...not that its ginna STOP me =D but ya im gettin like....3 soon i hope


playing in church i'd go somthing like a K. coz their darker they aren't quite as loud. i have sabian AAX's and they are way 2 bright for the stuff 2 do @ church.
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:44 am

i thought that the z customs were made to be beaten though
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:45 am

tnkace wrote:there's a reason the cymbals break easier....the heavier the cymbal the stiffer it is...so it doesn't have much give or flex...it breaks....a somewhat thinner cymbal has more flex and won't break as easy


I was just about to say this. Every Z custom I've seen is cracked.

I like the way the Z customs sound but you have to hit them hard to get that sound and they have zero dynamic capabilities... unless they really cracked, then some of them get quieter.

If you really want one of these I'd say just get one and add that to what you currently play so you can really see the difference between these and "normal" cymbals.
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:46 am

Tank wrote:i own a 20" Z custom projection crash. it is loud and i have not cracked it yet (knock on wood). they are very heavy cymbals, you have to really pound on it to get a crash sound out of it. i use mine as a crash /ride. they aren't any good for dynamics.


yeah, if you're looking for good dynamics look into the A or K custom cymbals. there are many good sabians out there too (for good dynamics and technical cymbal use)
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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:01 am

Z Customs are the best for large venues and outdoor play they will take a serios BEATING. If played correctly. If you are breaking them regularly you should take a look at your set up. Cymbal angle, angle of attack ect. You should be hitting them with the stick almost parralel to the cymbal itself. You need to adjust the tension of your retainers and felts to get the swing that closest matches your swing and tempo so you are not hitting them straight on the edge. That is wher and how most cymbals break. The Z Customs are a lot more rigid. Their weakness is that they don't sound very musical at low volumes they have to be HIT to sound good. You will be happier with A Customs for smaller venues. Even A customs can be ABUSED if stuck properly. They are thinner and more flexible but less forgiving if mis hit.

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Post Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:28 pm

does anyone use the thrash/ride? how does it sound?
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Post Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:33 am

A customs r the most versitile out of the Z, K and A this is why there proberly most, i use a Z custom ride and its loud unless u really want it to be! but is does ring on for agers! really nice cymbals!