[Alcyon] - Stock Pearl EX+Ziljian ZXTs

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Post Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:06 pm

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Post Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:57 pm

Hey! You're a lucky guy if you start with a drum set that good :)

PS - Try to work with your tom angles a bit :)
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Post Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:47 pm

I agree. Wow, awesome kit. Your in a good shape starting wth something that nice.

And I also gotta agree about your tom angles. It breaks my heart to see nice drums setup in a way that will sacrifice sound quality. Right now, i bet those angles feel comfortable, but beleive me, its better to play uncomfortable at first and adjust to a more neat and sound-focused setup.

If you can, pick up Dave Weckl's three video series he put out a few years back. One of the videos is all about setting up drums to maximize progress and comfort, as well as sound quality. They are a great buy. Hell, its worth it just to watch Weckl.
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Post Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:59 pm

Thanks a lot for the help and comments guys, but could you give a little more advice?

Are they too low or too high or tilted weird... I'm really new to assembling my own kit (obviously) and I'd love to have advice on how to do it right.

Thanks again!
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Post Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:02 pm

Basically, how weckl says to do it is start with just your kick drum and drum throne. Sit down and close your eyes and air-drum for a few seconds. Then set your snare and floor tom so that they are almost the same height on their respective sides of the kit. Then with downward motion drop your arms so they are making right angles with your body: this will tell you how high your rack toms should run.

I tend to play kind of circularly (if that makes any sense), so my toms are almost flat, but slightly tilted, and flow circularly around my kit. Neil Peart is actually a huge advocate of this as well. This is personal preference, but you just definately want to make sure your drums positioning isn't hindering your agility aroudn the kit, or the sound.

But I must say, Weckl explains this so much better than anyone. I really do reccommend you pick up those videos. I def. reconsidered my own set-up on how to set them up, tune them, and play my kit in general from Weckl. And it shows. My playing feels and sounds much better.

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Post Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:22 pm

That set up is like the retro jazz musicians set up- small tom in line with the snare, middle and floor tom lined together. I think you should bring your toms closer to each other and bring the floor tom closer. That way you won't sacrifice your speed and energy because of moving a lot on the set.
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Post Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:03 am

Really Nice Kit man!!!

Totally agree with all the guys. Weckels got a great explaination.

Glad to welcome you to the Drumming Brotherhood.

If I may offer this, in all of musicdom, there is alot of competition. Guitarist all use their "AXES" to "CHOP HEADS" and compete, you will see this throughout your career in drums, singers generally have the same competitive edge attaining to be better than everyone else...but us drummers....we are a brother hood, that are here to make every brother the absolute best he or SHE (ding dang right go girls) can be. Drummers are a family and we do not compete. Even when vying for the same gig, the right drummer is chosen and the other drummers congatulate them and then very quickly ask them what it was they knew to get the gig haha. But anyway never hesitate to ask your brother or sister drummer for help and or advice and definitely learn any lesson they teach you.

I guess in writing this I must say that there must be a new term for what we cal our brother hood as to not exclude the sisters that in my humbled opinion tend to rock some of the dudes socks off. haha so maybe from now on we cal this the DRUMMERHOOD!

OK enough being philisophical, gotta go practice, working on the Rossanna groove.
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Post Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:55 am

Alcyon wrote:Thanks a lot for the help and comments guys, but could you give a little more advice?

Are they too low or too high or tilted weird... I'm really new to assembling my own kit (obviously) and I'd love to have advice on how to do it right.

Thanks again!


sweet kit, if i had that kit for my first one, i'd be :shock: :shock:
anyway, hmm some advice, maybe try bringing your floor tom a little closer to you, and maybe bring the ride down a bit it looks real high, looks at a little awkward angle, but then again it all depends how it feels for u, if it feels right, then thats gr8:)
keep us posted on how you've positioned it 8)

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Post Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:40 pm

Nice starter kit!! Just listen to some of the advice out there, take a look at some picturs of how others set up theirs and then take it from there. Have fun!!

Damian Saint, try this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsDY5YRO5pQ
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Post Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:22 pm

Damian Saint wrote:Really Nice Kit man!!!

Totally agree with all the guys. Weckels got a great explaination.

Glad to welcome you to the Drumming Brotherhood.

If I may offer this, in all of musicdom, there is alot of competition. Guitarist all use their "AXES" to "CHOP HEADS" and compete, you will see this throughout your career in drums, singers generally have the same competitive edge attaining to be better than everyone else...but us drummers....we are a brother hood, that are here to make every brother the absolute best he or SHE (ding dang right go girls) can be. Drummers are a family and we do not compete. Even when vying for the same gig, the right drummer is chosen and the other drummers congatulate them and then very quickly ask them what it was they knew to get the gig haha. But anyway never hesitate to ask your brother or sister drummer for help and or advice and definitely learn any lesson they teach you.

I guess in writing this I must say that there must be a new term for what we cal our brother hood as to not exclude the sisters that in my humbled opinion tend to rock some of the dudes socks off. haha so maybe from now on we cal this the DRUMMERHOOD!

OK enough being philisophical, gotta go practice, working on the Rossanna groove.


all i have to say is WOW!!!!!!!
that is very true. i am impressed lol ive never seen anyone describe it in such a good way. it is all true. drummers are family and we all help eachother out. Dude... i like that alot great way to welcome a drummer into the community too!

and my suggestions for your kit i would bring the toms closer in. my kit is set up where the toms are right next to eachother maybe half an inch apart and raise the toms up and tilt down to your comfort or if you like playin flat lower down n make em flat. i also agree on that ride.. bring it down lower, just above your large tom but not so low that its in the way or anything, you want that ride nice and easy so you can ride it comfortably. and with your floor tom, just make it level with the height of your snare, maybe tilt it a bit toward u. but dude i love the kit looks really nice and great starter kit. hope this helps man, if not feel free to ask because remember were brothers, all part of "Drummerhood"
rock on man good luck and have fun!
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Post Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:48 pm

Very nice kit, my frist real set was Exports. always stay with pearl and Zildjian. they will never let you down.
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Post Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:08 pm

Nice kit man... really nice... and nice color... its awesome... like your garage too... peace man!
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