Practicing: pad or pillow?

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what's better for practicing

pad
5
33%
pillow
3
20%
both
7
47%
 
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Post Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:57 am

What's your view on practicing without your snare/drumset - do you like to practice on a pad (or something else that simulates the rebound of a drumhead) or a pillow (or something else that doesn't give you any rebound at all)?
I've heard many opinions about practicing on pillows being good or bad for you hand technique/speed/endurance and I'm curious about what you think.
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Post Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:30 pm

I use different surfaces for different techniques. For example I'd use a pillow for moeller and classic doubles(two separate strokes) and a pad for the free stroke and push pull doubles/roll.
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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:08 am

pillow for moeller? correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the moeller technique rely on rebound :shock: ?
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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:17 am

I would argue that the Moeller technique does not depend on the rebound, as I can do it on a pillow which has no rebound. But it is also probable that I do it wrong.
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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:27 pm

moeller does rely on reound for a lot of speed but u can gain better reliance and consistancy on a pillow
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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:20 pm

... alot more betetr than a pillow or a pad.. but also its a abit pricey but it depends if u have that option
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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:40 pm

exactly what is the moeller method?
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Post Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:17 pm

Pillow for a workout, pad for cleaning chops.
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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:06 am

I was always using a practice pad until I saw Dennis Chambers
Video and he was expressing how he always used a pillow and
using a dead surface with no bounce built up more speed and endurance. So I went to using a pilliow, and saw the results for
single stroke speed, because my forearms would be burning
more and getting more of a workout than using a pad. Saw results in 32nd & 64th note single stroke rolls. And since I was living in a
apartment, the pillow was a lot quiter, lol.

I think both should be incorporated.
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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:32 am

I think a pad should be used when you learn a technique which uses the bounce of the stick(free stroke, push pull etc).
Isn't it that when you practice on a pillow you use the wrong technique(not using the rebound etc)?
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Post Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:39 am

http://drummerworld.com/Clinic/Derrick_Pope1.html here's a great explanation of the moeller technique. I can see how you can practice that first motion on a pillow but than again I just don't see the sense of doing it without practicing what is IMHO the hardest part - the rebounds :)
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It is more than a metaphor:
It is a physical experience as real as any other.