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Post Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:31 pm

Hahahahah! Man the shit I HATE..........
:evil: Stages TOO small for my double bass kit!
Playing on someone's tiny ass 3pc rock kit!
Drunks that want to help sing!
Drunks trying to give me a drink, over the top of my kit! (it ALWAYS spills!!)
ANYONE that bangs my cymbols
Definately tearing down!! (I'm usually so fucking beat after the show!)
Other drummers that won't take their eyes off your playing!
:evil: Curious little twits that sneak behind my kit when on break!!!!(this happens alot!)
Setting up in high-class stuffy places, and then the sound check!! (they FREAK!)
Everyone in the crowd that "thinks" their a sound-man!
Having everyone stand in your way at 3:00am, while trying to load your shit!!!!!!!!
Drunk, fat, ugly, greasy women that think they have a chance to get in your PANTS!
Club owners that take FOREVER to pay the band at the end of the night!

You know....we drummers put up with alot of shit!!
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Post Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:52 pm

-bad monitors- makes it harder to hear everyone else and your guitarist gets to have a convo with the sound guy after the first song forever saying "yea can you turn that up just a little louder no louder still" and the crowd loses interest

-venues changing the line up at showtime- most of my bands fans watch us and only us so based on a line up where were supposed to play 3rd or 4th its sucks to be switched to 1st and none of our fans are there yet. not to mention its just unprofessional.

-other bands tryin to put their stuff on stage before yours is off

-singers knocking over drum mics- hasnt happened to me while im playing but being a good friend to other bands ive jumped on stage to quickly set a bass drum mic or dynamic back up after the singer knocked it over, sad thing is singer never even noticed wut happened both times.
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Post Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:56 pm

When my guitarist thinks he knows how to play drums and starts arguing with me that I should play his "awesome beat" that was just bass, snare, bass, snare.

When the drums aren't miked.

When the guitarist pulls everyone off stage so he can do a bunch of acoustic songs.
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Post Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:58 pm

I know everyone has already said it..
But pet peeve number 1 would be bad fold backs/ monitors.. Almost EVERY gig I've played, I can just hear the rest of the band playing because my monitor rather just isn't working or it's setup badly.

Also I hate inconsiderate drummers, most I've met are nice and considerate, but occasionally I get those who think their rock gods and rather treat me like a roadie, or they just take up room everywhere with their stuff and leave no room for other drummers to have their gear.

I have a whole lot of other peeves, but a final one, is the venues that don't care about the bands, most people go to a venue to see a band perform and drink... so the venue only has half of the reason people are there, yet they treat bands like crap, and often pay bare minimum.. only problem is.. so many bands want a chance to play.. they can get away with it =(
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Post Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:25 pm

-Parking in the designated loading area and while I am carrying my kit into the club, a cop is writing me a ticket.

-Having the club personnel or band members tell me to stop when I’m checking or tuning my drums.

-Band members who don’t get a blend with the rest of the band…they’re too loud.

-Band leaders who are dictators

-Audiences who don’t applaud when you just played you A$$ off.

-Guitar, bass, and singers who finish packing up way before the drummer and don’t help.

-Soundmen who don’t think the drum sound is important.

-Soundmen who turn the drummer's vocal mic down but don't bring it up when the drummer is singing.

-Drunken ignorant people who stand in my way and block me while I’m carrying my drums out. Then on my next trip out, they’re standing in the same place. Duhhhh…. the band is moving equipment.

-Band members who don’t behave professionally and as a result, cause the band to lose a gig.

I know I have many more…LOL
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Post Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:34 am

Folks who show up late and then take too long to get set up.
Players who forget the way the song goes even though they've only played it for years.
Musicians who won't learn their parts BEFORE the gig.
Bands who are so desparate to play that they'll play for table scraps - it only makes things difficult on us all.

Drummers who want to sit-in just so they can "dazzle" you with how hard and fast they can play double bass - even on "Satin Doll!" :roll:
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Post Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:39 am

Runnin' out of beer...especially if it was free at the trough before.
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Post Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:40 am

I cannot believe I never replied to this so here goes:

Incompetence
Disorganization
Inattentiveness
Lackluster attitudes
Bad food
No rooms available (road issue)

Late is another thing- When I was on the road with Ike I learned "It's OK to be a little bit late, but it's NEVER OK to be last". When you are last then you are the scapegoat for EVERYONE who was late.
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Post Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:52 am

Atmerrill wrote:Bands who are so desparate to play that they'll play for table scraps - it only makes things difficult on us all.


Too true. Deep Ellum (Dallas) is REALLY bad about that...Rockula! knows.

BillRayDrums wrote:Late is another thing- When I was on the road with Ike I learned "It's OK to be a little bit late, but it's NEVER OK to be last" When you are last then you are the scapegoat for EVERYONE who was late.


I'm pretty good about being on time, so much so that recently when I was running about 15 minutes late to our band's Chinese Christmas liquor exchange the singer called and said he just wanted to make sure I hadn't had a wreck or something. Funny, I live a half hour from everyone, and I'm always on time. The bass player, however, is another story. He's late all the time-and we meet up at his house!
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Post Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:41 pm

Oh, one more I just thought of. Multiple band shows where the two opening acts both play the same song. Jeez people, if the first band already played it, just leave it out. If you don't have enough material to compensate, that's your band's own fault. Just play a short set. But you should always have more than enough material to do the gig.
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Post Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:10 pm

iampoor wrote:Being forced to play a show with a "Death metal band" (I mean scene kids if they were real death metal then its all good).


Welcome to my world! San Diego, California - scene kid capital of the world.

I'm in a Death/Thrash metal band (http://www.myspace.com/immolatedseraphim) and we get on bills with other "death metal bands" and we find out they are just scene kid bands with break downs that they deem brutal. It's pathetic.

Back on topic -

Drunk band mates
A broken monitors
Horrible sound guys
Fat girls dancing to death metal
http://www.myspace.com/immolatedseraphim - Chula Vista Death/Thrash Metal
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Post Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:12 pm

Being engulfed in cigarette smoke all night and my drum bags reeking of it the next day.. .... yea.. i'm a pesky non-smoker...sorry.


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Post Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:17 pm

SHOGUNWARRIOR32 wrote:Being engulfed in cigarette smoke all night and my drum bags reeking of it the next day.. .... yea.. i'm a pesky non-smoker...sorry.


Shogun


I feel yer pain there partner! Quit smoking about 8 years ago and found myself now being one of those pain in the ass non-smokers - Didn't realize how bad (of a habit) or how sensitive I've become until I started playing again at the casinos around San Diego where they can still light up. Sadly, my stick bag has to air out a day after that - as do my clothes.
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Post Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:21 pm

I hate it when I do the gig and then have to wait to get paid, or chase after my money.
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Post Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:31 pm

Man, I could write a list from here to Gibraltar. (No pun intended, heh, if any of you caught the "gibraltar" part)

Sound guys bitching about my click pad It's my sound, I like it, and it cuts through and you can hear every stroke. Not my fault that you don't like the sound or your PA can't handle it. I want my kick drum to be heard and clear, not a big rumble when I take off into double bass patterns.

Waiting on other drummers who are taking forever to tear down onstage
Now, I will admit, I am guilty of tearing my stuff down on stage. But I do it in a timely, quick manner and I usually have somebody helping me dismantle things so I can get it out the door. I find it easier, expecially with my rack. Makes it easier to haul out. Every piece I dismantle, I set aside and my roadie or one of my band members picks it up and hauls it away immediately. I'm off the stage within 5 to 7 minutes max! I've seen guys who will lolly gag around, chit chat and take their sweet time while they tear down and tighten every single bolt. TAKE THE BIG SHIT DOWN AND DO THE REST OUTSIDE!!!

Things malfunctioning/breaking/coming undone My Iron Cobras came undone about 20 seconds into the first song of our set when we opened for Sepultura. And Sepultura was watching us!!!!!!! I was so embarassed and was afraid that I looked like a fool in front one of metal's legendary bands.

Being/feeling rushed
My anxiety comes into play here alot and I hate it. When I feel pressured or rushed, especially when other people are telling me to hurry up, I freak out, and I end up fumbling shit, or not having a chance to double check things (see # 3) and it just sucks man.

Drunk/non drunk people coming up on stage and talking to me when I'm trying to tear down/load out Look if you want to talk to me, wait until I'm done loading out and when I come back in. Then, find me and we'll talk

Small stages Being crammed sucks. Especially when the carpet on the mini drum riser has no grip and my rack ends up sliding forward and almost falling off the stage. It's pretty bad when my guitar player has to keep turning around and pushing my rack back while he's playing. NOTE TO CLUB OWNERS: Please, have a stage that accomodates a 4 or 5 piece band COMFORTABLY!!!!!

Other drummers using my setup or items from my setup, then damaging or breaking something and not paying up, atfer the fact that I make my policy clear to them "YOU BREAK IT, YOU BUY IT!.
This happened to me once. I generously let a fellow drummer in the next band after us use my setup, since he did not have his kit on hand. ONE: BRING YOUR OWN KIT TO BEGIN WITH!!! Now I'm a nice guy, if you want to use something, I'll gladly let you do so if you ask, but if you break something, you're going to replace it or compensate me for it. This guy blew out my top head on my snare drum then didn't bother to pay up. My band members felt bad and they went out and bought a new head for me.

Other drummers getting behind my kit, and acting like a complete He-Man, bashing away with all their might. Hey, those drums heads and cymbals are expensive, I don't need you wearing out my heads in one session or breaking my cymbals. It's all in the wrist, not the whole arm. One time, a He-man basher had the nerve to say I didn't know what I was talking about and was wrong when I told him that. I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 16 YEARS!!! I THINK I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Clearly, he was inexperienced, and not even a drummer.

Bad Monitors


Lack of participating when I try and incite crowd participation


Those stupid scene kids who swing their arms and kick their legs in the pit Save the Kung Fu shit for the dojo, not the mosh pit. Chances are, you'll get your ass stomped or knocked to the floor if you hit somebody doing that.

People in the front row, staring me down, critically watching my every move I know who you are. I can tell a difference between those who are staring because they are impressed with what I'm doing and are enjoying the show, and the guys who are just being critical.

Sausage Fest up front
Enough said. I dig chicks as much as the next guy, and I like to make eye contact and badger and (dare I say, flirt) if I see a certain girl in the crowd that I like. It sucks when I'm looking to meet a girl at a show, and all I see is a bunch of dudes.

People overly kissing my ass Okay, I get the point, you like what I do, you don't have to sit there and suck up and tell me a million times that I'm good. I just do what I do. I'm not a drum god.

Other musicians/drummers overly critiquing my playing
That's my job, not yours. If you got a suggestion or a tip, shoot. I'm all ears and I'll listen and take/try your advice. Dont sit there at the bar table with me and tell me "Oh, you need to do this, you're doing this the wrong way. You need to listen to this"

I feel I've written enough. There are so many more things I could write, but like I said, the list would be from here to Gibraltar.
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