antiunderscores wrote:please explain. whats turk mean and whats flanging the outer edge down a bit going to do for the sound?rufus4dagruv wrote:christopherabruce wrote:rufus4dagruv wrote:... I find that using an Erskine ride stick keeps the wash on the Bliss type III's in check...
I have an 18" and a 22" and find that, that's true, for my 22". It has a good deal of wash. To take care of excess wash, I have a smallish, no more than 1", gaffers tape square on the underside of my 22", where the bell's edge meets the bow.
Haha, actually have have 2 pieces of gaffers to try to control it! It did help, but I'm hoping to sit down with it and try some mallet rolling to see if she'll tame up a bit. If it doesn't, which will most likely be the case, I have considered sending it out to Mike Skiba to see if he tune it up. I was thinking of having him lathe about 200 grams off the top, closer to the edge, rehammer and leave the bottom a turk, and then flange the outer edge down just a bit. Maybe. We'll see. At the same time, I could just email him and have him make me one from a B20 blank.
Turk essentially means unlathed. A Turk style cymbal would look something like this:
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I find that just raw hammering "tightens" up a cymbal and dries it out. This works well for lighter cymbals to control the trashiness. Flanging the edge also helps. The Istanbul Agop Epoch ride is a good example:
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If you look at the out edge, it appears a bit darker in the photo. This is because it is flanged downward a bit. Again, this will help control the spread. I like the idea of having a dry ride, but I do not care for heavy rides because I find them to generally be too one dimensional, i.e. best for louder settings. I want a ride in my arsenal that would be useful at lower volumes for jams, rehearsals, and tiny unmic'ed venues, but also can be laid into without getting out of control. I love to play out and jam with just a snare, kick, hats, and 1 cymbal, and my cymbalholic-like nature has prevented me from completely narrowing down that 1 pie (don't get me started on the hats, haha!). Anywho, I hope this answers your question.
