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Post Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:16 am

skitch wrote:Who do you feel is leading the way in making more choices for cymbals?


Paiste cymbals is my vote. I think their New Signature Line is great and I can't wait to try out the Paiste Twenty line. This company makes some great cymbals.

Since the late 80's I have been buying Sabian cymbals. Sabian does make custom cymbals for you on request. You will wait 8 -12 weeks and if you hate the cymbal when you get it, well you are out of luck. I had Sabian make me a 22" HHX Evolution Ride and a 19" AAX Studio crash. I love the crash, but now I know why Dave Weckl didn't use the 22" it sounds too big and washy, but it was my choice to get it made so it mostly sits on my shelf waiting for the perfect gig to use it on. So all that to say that Sabian is a great company as well.

I also have nothing but great thinks to say about Zildijan as well - I just didn't have the cash to keep buying Zildjians in the 80's so I started buy Sabians that used to be about $15 - $20 cheaper per cymbal. My first cymbals were Zildjian ... I wish I had kept most of them today.
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Post Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:23 am

AngryGandhi wrote:what kind of price do you pay for custom made saludas?


My prices are lower, because I'm a Saluda endorser. But anyone can get custom-made cymbals for the prices that are listed on their website. The prices are a little less expensive than Zildjian or Sabian, and with a phone call or two, you can get them custom made to your specs.

www.saludacymbals.com

They do custom drums, too.
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Post Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:12 am

yep, I wish I could have kept my old Zildjians of the early 80s myself. They sure took a lotta beating and in the end still standing.

Plus they sounded the best.
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Post Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:34 pm

Guys and gals... I have to stand with screamkevin on this one. I will never buy another cymbal line other than Saluda as long as they are in business (and keep up the great customer support).
They offer --- bar none --- the best bang for your buck!
And don't take me the wrong way... I have found many Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste, etc. cymbals that I loved, but wasn't willing to shell out $$$ for. I can have Saluda pretty much match what I want for a lot less than the others.
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Post Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:33 pm

earldrum wrote:
skitch wrote:Who do you feel is leading the way in making more choices for cymbals?


Paiste cymbals is my vote. I think their New Signature Line is great and I can't wait to try out the Paiste Twenty line. This company makes some great cymbals.



The signature line was pretty revolutionary when it came out. Paiste created the patented "Paiste Sound Alloy" and I believe that the newer Sound Formula line was also made from this new alloy.

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Post Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:17 pm

Uhh dudes chill with the custom cymbal Saluda stuff we all have opinions and well yours may be different but that doesnt make it RIGHT! But anyways i just got into Saludas and they are pretty amazing. I would say that if they kept there prices they would possibly put the other cymbal comanies out of business. High quality and custom cymbals for cheap yeah most people would buy. They probably will raise the price though as they get more noticed though. So uy up while you can! Other than them i really like Sabian but they have crappy customer service. Zildjian is way better about that. I say though i like Saludas the best. Thats just my opinion.
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Post Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:42 am

earldrum wrote:
skitch wrote:Who do you feel is leading the way in making more choices for cymbals?


Paiste cymbals is my vote. I think their New Signature Line is great and I can't wait to try out the Paiste Twenty line. This company makes some great cymbals.

Since the late 80's I have been buying Sabian cymbals. Sabian does make custom cymbals for you on request. You will wait 8 -12 weeks and if you hate the cymbal when you get it, well you are out of luck. I had Sabian make me a 22" HHX Evolution Ride and a 19" AAX Studio crash. I love the crash, but now I know why Dave Weckl didn't use the 22" it sounds too big and washy, but it was my choice to get it made so it mostly sits on my shelf waiting for the perfect gig to use it on. So all that to say that Sabian is a great company as well.

I also have nothing but great thinks to say about Zildijan as well - I just didn't have the cash to keep buying Zildjians in the 80's so I started buy Sabians that used to be about $15 - $20 cheaper per cymbal. My first cymbals were Zildjian ... I wish I had kept most of them today.


I would agree paiste may not make cymbals with holes in them ect but they do make some great sounding consistent cymbals when you buy a paiste you know it is gonna be good and you are gonna be happy with it. they have made many innovations especially when you look at alloys and the amazing sound creation line.

The whole saluda thing seems to be getting a bit crazy I don't have to play cuatom made cymbals to have my own unique sound. i do agree that there are legions of drummers out there who sound the same with the whole a custom thing but so what if they like it thats all that matters. isn't it?
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Post Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:14 am

Sorry, didn't realize that if we were on the forums that we had to NOT promote the cymbals we use.

All I was saying was that if you want a custom cymbal made to your specs, then Saluda is the company that can do it. Period. If you don't like it, then don't call them. No sweat off my balls. I'm quite happy knowing that my cymbals don't sound like anyone elses. Just like you're happy knowing that your cymbals do sound like everyone elses. To each his own. Whatever, I'm not in the mood for this BS today.
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Post Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:38 pm

meh i never played any saluda...and i dont buy anything that i havent played so for now its sabian zildjian and paiste for me.
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Post Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:52 pm

i am quite happy with the sounds paiste provide me with i don't need some company to make them specially for me
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Post Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:21 am

Now here is different angle on custom cymbals ... this guy takes whatever cymbal you own and changes the cymbal sound to the sound you want to hear.

http://johancymbals.fr.nf/

The price quote below I got from Johan to change the sound of a 20" Paiste Prototype "signaure series" cymbal. This was in December 2006. He said that "the total price to reinvent your cymbal which included my shipping costs would be 96 euro." Which is about $130.

BTW, this information posted above is an FYI. I never used his service, but I have heard some good things about him and was thinking about it enough to write him an email.

It seemed like a cool idea. :)
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Post Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:30 am

I have a buddy who has Saludas, and i have Meinl and all our cymbles sound alike, and mine were cheaper
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Post Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:36 am

earldrum wrote:
skitch wrote:Who do you feel is leading the way in making more choices for cymbals?


Paiste cymbals is my vote. I think their New Signature Line is great and I can't wait to try out the Paiste Twenty line. This company makes some great cymbals.....................................................
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Post Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:03 am

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AngryGandhi wrote:what kind of price do you pay for custom made saludas?


My prices are lower, because I'm a Saluda endorser. But anyone can get custom-made cymbals for the prices that are listed on their website. The prices are a little less expensive than Zildjian or Sabian, and with a phone call or two, you can get them custom made to your specs.

www.saludacymbals.com

They do custom drums, too.


Ok.. not to sound like a smart ass.. but can someone explain the process of saluda creating your own custom cymbal..i don't know anything about it but from what i learned with other company's, like the Peart's Paragons, he was really involved.. you mention just giving some specs over the phone...do you really get exactly what you want and a totally original result that way?
Please explain.

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Post Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:55 am

OMG, what world do we live in where only ONE cymbal company apparently makes custom cymbals!?!?

Nah, I know that Paiste, and I suppose Sabian and Zildjian will make custom sizes (but maybe not models), makes custom orders. Hell, I knew someone that had a 2002 in a Rude finish with the visions color over it. He had another that was a mix of B8, silver, and CuSn8 bronze and a killer finish. I think the issue here is cost. If Saluda does that custom stuff for free, that's great. It probably won't last as they grow as a cymbal company. Paiste usually has a 30%-50% markup from the list for customs. I dunno about Sabian or Zildjian. I do know it can be done though.