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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:12 am

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I always thought that the Paiste pst 5 series were better than the zbt, zxt, and the zht ones. But the zxt rock hats in this video doesn't sound that bad... in fact I think it sounds better than my pst 5 medium hats (especially when it's open, it has more sizzle)... is it supposed to be like that or am I doing something wrong with my hats...
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:20 am

rogue set maybe? haha, i do know that if anything the zxts are cutting a clear, but outside of that, practically useless imho
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:18 am

Those ZXT sounds quite similar to my ZBT rock.. I also think that ZBT aren't bad too! The ride has a really good bell and the hihat makes a good chick sound (well, for the money...)... I have used a Paiste 5 before and personally prefer my ZBT.
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:55 am

I wopuld go with a used set of a higher quality before I did either one...just my opinion though....they are both a bit harsh to the ear.
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:26 am

man if that's you please don't take offense
but i hate that kids like to have more
even if that means way less quality
that kids hasn't been playing very long (again if that's you, sorry)
he doesn't need to have three rack toms
and a ton of cymbals

a bass, 1 rack tom, 1 floor tom
hi-hats, a ride, a crash, and maybe a china

learn on that, when you can do wonderful things on that set
then you're ready to add on
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:21 am

You can get more out of two decent cymbals than you can out of ten shit ones.
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:55 pm

shine.fm-youth wrote:man if that's you please don't take offense
but i hate that kids like to have more
even if that means way less quality
that kids hasn't been playing very long (again if that's you, sorry)
he doesn't need to have three rack toms
and a ton of cymbals

a bass, 1 rack tom, 1 floor tom
hi-hats, a ride, a crash, and maybe a china

learn on that, when you can do wonderful things on that set
then you're ready to add on
just my opinion


but thats not to say that a big kit makes you a great drummer, im not a great drummer, but i can play, and i still only use a four piece, hats ride crash china
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:16 pm

nooo not at all, a big kit means nothing if you can't carry it
but a beginner shouldn't learn on a big kit
to much to take in i think
if you have a basic set up it's not so overwhelming
and let's you be creative without worring about what one of your 17 toms to hit
you know what i'm saying?

i wouldn't give a beginner an 8 piece kit and say here play
i'd start them out on a basic 4 piece set
and then slowly add stuff as they know how to use it
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:24 pm

yea i know exactly what you mean, see i was spoiled as hell though, my parent bought my first kit a really cheap 300$ first act :(, well my aunt married a drummer who let me use his pearl masters 7 piece and complete set of zil ks, haha then...he let me use is roland vdrums electric kit, then i bought mine, but in hindsight i completely agree, and strongly suggest any begginer stay away from electric kits. it gives you terrible technique, you dont learn tuning, and you sure as hell dont spend tons on sticks haha
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:52 pm

Ive always viewed e-drums as cheating. you dont learn tuning cuz you have a pre-arranged selection of sounds to pick from, or accuracy because you can hit the drum on the edge and it still makes the same sound as if you had hit in the center.
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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:10 pm

Rayzor wrote:<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4VLp_n03KUo&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4VLp_n03KUo&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I always thought that the Paiste pst 5 series were better than the zbt, zxt, and the zht ones. But the zxt rock hats in this video doesn't sound that bad... in fact I think it sounds better than my pst 5 medium hats (especially when it's open, it has more sizzle)... is it supposed to be like that or am I doing something wrong with my hats...


I know plenty of cats that gig around and use all those kinds of cymbals. What's more important is being good at the drums than having good gear, imo. I know I could play fine on a 5 piece Pulse kit with B8 cymbals. So I wouldn't worry about what sounds better. But if you want more sizzle in your hats I'd suggest loosening the grip that the hi-hat clutch has on the top hat. That hat should be able to swing around a bit. Tightening it too much will take away that sizzle, so beware! lol

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