Dream Cymbals

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Postby rufus4dagruv » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:03 am

antiunderscores wrote:
rufus4dagruv wrote:
christopherabruce wrote:
rufus4dagruv wrote:... I find that using an Erskine ride stick keeps the wash on the Bliss type III's in check...

I have an 18" and a 22" and find that, that's true, for my 22". It has a good deal of wash. To take care of excess wash, I have a smallish, no more than 1", gaffers tape square on the underside of my 22", where the bell's edge meets the bow.


Haha, actually have have 2 pieces of gaffers to try to control it! It did help, but I'm hoping to sit down with it and try some mallet rolling to see if she'll tame up a bit. If it doesn't, which will most likely be the case, I have considered sending it out to Mike Skiba to see if he tune it up. I was thinking of having him lathe about 200 grams off the top, closer to the edge, rehammer and leave the bottom a turk, and then flange the outer edge down just a bit. Maybe. We'll see. At the same time, I could just email him and have him make me one from a B20 blank.
please explain. whats turk mean and whats flanging the outer edge down a bit going to do for the sound?


Turk essentially means unlathed. A Turk style cymbal would look something like this:

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I find that just raw hammering "tightens" up a cymbal and dries it out. This works well for lighter cymbals to control the trashiness. Flanging the edge also helps. The Istanbul Agop Epoch ride is a good example:

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If you look at the out edge, it appears a bit darker in the photo. This is because it is flanged downward a bit. Again, this will help control the spread. I like the idea of having a dry ride, but I do not care for heavy rides because I find them to generally be too one dimensional, i.e. best for louder settings. I want a ride in my arsenal that would be useful at lower volumes for jams, rehearsals, and tiny unmic'ed venues, but also can be laid into without getting out of control. I love to play out and jam with just a snare, kick, hats, and 1 cymbal, and my cymbalholic-like nature has prevented me from completely narrowing down that 1 pie (don't get me started on the hats, haha!). Anywho, I hope this answers your question.
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Postby HardcoreDrummer » Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:13 am

oh hey guys

btw i got it in like 2 weeks ago , and it sounds great!
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Postby rufus4dagruv » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:18 am

HardcoreDrummer wrote:oh hey guys

btw i got it in like 2 weeks ago , and it sounds great!


Sweet. What's the size and gram weight?
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Postby christopherabruce » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:32 am

If you do that, let us know how it works. I thought about doing the same thing for a while, but I realized that the excess wash really only bugs me when practicing or with an acoustic duo. Not a problem with recording or larger groups. Might still have it done though.

rufus4dagruv wrote:...I have considered sending it out to Mike Skiba to see if he tune it up. I was thinking of having him lathe about 200 grams off the top, closer to the edge, rehammer and leave the bottom a turk, and then flange the outer edge down just a bit. Maybe. We'll see. At the same time, I could just email him and have him make me one from a B20 blank.
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Postby rufus4dagruv » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:57 am

christopherabruce wrote:If you do that, let us know how it works. I thought about doing the same thing for a while, but I realized that the excess wash really only bugs me when practicing or with an acoustic duo. Not a problem with recording or larger groups. Might still have it done though.

rufus4dagruv wrote:...I have considered sending it out to Mike Skiba to see if he tune it up. I was thinking of having him lathe about 200 grams off the top, closer to the edge, rehammer and leave the bottom a turk, and then flange the outer edge down just a bit. Maybe. We'll see. At the same time, I could just email him and have him make me one from a B20 blank.


I'm still on the fence about what I'm going to do. The stick on this pie is still a too brittle. I'm unsure if that's something that can be tamed or transformed into more of a "tah," because as I understand, that it one of the characteristics that's inherent in the creation of the alloy and its tempering. Also, I'm not sure if I want to sink anymore coin into this pie. Decisions, decisions.
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby HardcoreDrummer » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:41 pm

I have no idea at all what you mean by gram weight dude, but it's a 14..

well....it was.
i cracked it like 2-3 weeks ago.
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby Drumosaurus » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:44 pm

I remember Mmmdrums is endorsed by them.

btw, where the hell is she?
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby shine.fm-youth » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:57 pm

^^^

she's endorsed by soultone :D
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby Drumosaurus » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:00 pm

ohh ya, it was soultone.

Ahh, i'm getting my custom companies mixed up. :?
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby Alan_ » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:59 pm

All I know is that, come this weekend, there's a dream 18" crash/ride that's trashy as can be that has my name on it.
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby DrumsPlus » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:18 pm

I bought both the 22 and 20 off of Rufus and love them. Really do have a lot of tone. The 22 was a little hard to get used to, sticking is hard to explain, but really do love these cymbals.
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Re: Anyone heard good things about Dream?

Postby Martin » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:29 pm

I have both a 20" Bliss which is crazy washy, and while I do like this cymbal its not my favorite. I also have a 22" Contact which is dry as can be with clear stick definition and a loud ass big bell. I dont use it as a main ride either but sometimes ill toss it up for a heavier song.
One thing for sure about Dream is make sure you hand pick them. I had the fortune of being able to handpick from dozens of different models and the really do differ quite significantly, each cymbal is very individual.
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Re: Dream Cymbals

Postby MrPowerRide » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:54 pm

i changed this thread to a sticky and renamed it appropriately. We need a section for this.

hope that was ok modifying your thread hardcore :)
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Re: Dream Cymbals

Postby jad » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:05 am

Does anyone here use them for rock/metal/pop?

It seems that these are perfect for jazz but I'd be interested to hear how the go in louder music styles.
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Re: Dream Cymbals

Postby Alan_ » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:29 pm

the Contact series is much more in line with being practical in a rock setting.
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