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Postby shine.fm-youth » Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:41 pm

"solid bent wood" like stave is extremely expensive
ply shells, like from keller, are generally inexpensive to buy just the shell
no drilling or edges

you can get a 6, 8, or 10 ply shell for like 50-60 bucks
it's the hardware and finishing that's expensive
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Postby antiunderscores » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:39 am

shine.fm-youth wrote:"solid bent wood" like stave is extremely expensive
ply shells, like from keller, are generally inexpensive to buy just the shell
no drilling or edges

you can get a 6, 8, or 10 ply shell for like 50-60 bucks
it's the hardware and finishing that's expensive
but if you dont have the tools it would be best if you got them to do the bearing edge and if you dont have the confidence/experience you should also get them drilled for you
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Postby Cheerful-Bear » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:28 am

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SlackBackLazy wrote:That's still amazing, I can't even bend wood without it cracking lol, I'll let the pro's do it :D
he orders in the shells, as a lot of company's/private builders do. this isnt an attack on anyone but personally i see drum companies that dont make their own shells, or cut their bearing edges, or do drilling more as assemblers and decorators than "makers". Not taking away from the skill of making them look good because i sure couldnt do that. thats just my opinion anyway.


So Bear designs them with pretty colours and stuff? thats cool. Where do you order the shells from, because I may give it a go :D
Also, seeing as you would know this stuff, what is better ply or the solid bent wood?


There's tons of places you can get them. For birch and maple, www.drumgearonline.com has been the cheapest for me.
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Postby Timekeep69 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:45 am

shine.fm-youth wrote:"solid bent wood" like stave is extremely expensive
ply shells, like from keller, are generally inexpensive to buy just the shell
no drilling or edges

you can get a 6, 8, or 10 ply shell for like 50-60 bucks
it's the hardware and finishing that's expensive


I just want to interject in here that stave shells and solid bent are NOT the same thing. Stave shells are pieces of wood glued together side by side and the shell is turned on a lathe to round it....kind of like how a barrel is made.
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Postby Cheerful-Bear » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:03 am

Yeah. I like the look of stave more.
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Postby Timekeep69 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:25 am

Here are some stave shells I've done.

Walnut
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Postby its-all-gravy » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:26 am

The lugs on that Walnut one are beautiful!
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Postby Cheerful-Bear » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:28 am

I really want to do like a Cherry stave shell with Rosita stripes.
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Postby SlackBackLazy » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:43 am

How shallow is the walnut one, and timekeep, do proffessional make drums for MM?
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Postby Timekeep69 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:34 pm

SlackBackLazy wrote:How shallow is the walnut one, and timekeep, do proffessional make drums for MM?


The walnut is a 3.5 x 14" and yes I build drums professionally.
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Postby shine.fm-youth » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:51 pm

Timekeep69 wrote:
shine.fm-youth wrote:"solid bent wood" like stave is extremely expensive
ply shells, like from keller, are generally inexpensive to buy just the shell
no drilling or edges

you can get a 6, 8, or 10 ply shell for like 50-60 bucks
it's the hardware and finishing that's expensive


I just want to interject in here that stave shells and solid bent are NOT the same thing. Stave shells are pieces of wood glued together side by side and the shell is turned on a lathe to round it....kind of like how a barrel is made.



thank you for the correction,
and that oak stave is beautiful
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Postby Brother_Bong » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:01 pm

Walnut*drools*
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Postby Cheerful-Bear » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:50 pm

I can't see these pictures. Don't know why, just not loading it.
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Postby antiunderscores » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:01 pm

i think bear was comparing the price between solid bent and stave, not the process they are made, and professional stave snare dont have enough barell-iness for my liking now this is more like it!
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Postby antiunderscores » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:01 pm

so hows the snare that began this topic actually going? have you got all the parts yet or what?
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