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Postby lexington » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:52 am

So, i've spent most of today (being unemployed unfortunately) fine tuning my drums, making sure they're all sounding decent and polishing my cymbals (a lot of time on my hands...) my set up is pretty weird, i've got a crash on my left hand side and on my right hand side (sat behind the kit) i've got a ride, another crash and a china cymbal. We're recording at my friends studio, and I just spoke to him on the phone, and he wants to use three over heads. That's all well and good, but won't that mess up the panning?
hmm i'm not sure. i've only recorded drums once before, but been in the studio recording bass/guitar and vocals, so i know a little bit. i'm no producer so maybe i should leave him to it? but i do want my drums to sound sick...
any comments/suggestions?
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby SGarrett » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:44 am

Placement is everything with mic'ing. :)

Don't forget to retune your drums once you get in the drum cave because it'll have different acoustics than your room.
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby lexington » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:13 am

i went up to our practice space and tuned them there cos thats where they're stored :) yeah, i've thought about it and i'll probably persuade him to just use two over heads, all the better for panning.
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby Sudz » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:43 pm

If panning is your concern, I'd guess he'd use 2 mics for overhead left and right with the 3rd being a direct mic on the ride. This would keep your stereo left right pan intact while allow the engineer to place the ride wherever you want it in the mix. It's a pretty common technique in studios from what I've seen.
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby SGarrett » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:19 pm

My suggestion is this, ask questions but don't make demands. Odds are strongly in favor of an experienced engineer knowing what they're doing. Maybe he's doing Left/Center/Right. Maybe he's using one as a room mic'. My point being, ask him why he's using three overheads don't just assume he doesn't know what he's doing. :)

Practice spot, room, where ever they are they aren't in the studio and the studio will have different acoustics. If it's a big room it's going to be really "live" with a lot of natural (and tuned) reverberation but a small room will be really "dry" with little to no reverberation. What sounds great in your practice spot might sound flat in the studio and vice versa. It shouldn't take too long to fine tune your drums to the room, just get there a little early.
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby randomdrum » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:57 am

We used 2 room mics and 2 overheads when we did our last album, and a close mic on the ride. Worked really well.
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby lexington » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:08 pm

the dude who recorded me is the guitarist in my band. we recorded in our practice space. things worked out in the end, we only used two over heads. it was a long day!
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby drummerduba » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:05 pm

What do you get from using Room Mics?


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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby Llama_Dude » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:13 pm

drummerduba wrote:What do you get from using Room Mics?


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Abiance and reverb. they're called room mics becuase they're used to capture the natural echo of the room
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby Alan_ » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:33 pm

there was one record I played on (Lovetron -Across the Grand Charade) where the reverb was provided by 3 neumann U-87's placed in a stairwell adjoining the (large) drum room: one at the base of the stairwell, one in the middle, and one up at the top...The room was deadened down a little bit with some burlap sacks on the wall, but it was still live. best reverb I've ever heard. huge freaking room.
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Re: I'm recording tomorrow

Postby randomdrum » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:06 pm

drummerduba wrote:What do you get from using Room Mics?


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Just more sound, more possibilites. For a lot of the songs we cut out the room mics from quieter bits, then when it kicked in brought them back. Added a little je ne sais quoi to the drum sound. It made it sound bigger but not in a supremely noticeable way, just added to the overall sound.
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