ok Evans ec2's for reso's?????

Aquarian, Evans, Remo etc. All about drumheads.

Moderator: Moderators

minimatt7
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:34 pm
Location: New Jersey

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:05 pm

ok so people always say that ec2s for reso's is a horrible idea or it'll end the world or it causes global warming. just kidding just the first one. anyway i went upon myself to try it any way ec2s on batter and reso for my toms. i dont know about anyone else but i like the sound it sounds very "Rockish" it gives the toms a short decay but not like dead its like better than dead. my question is why does everyone say it is so bad? Has anyone else tried it and not liked it?
User avatar
Jimbob2020
session drummer
session drummer
Posts: 653
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:43 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:10 pm

Because most people like a more open sound... I use coated Emperors as batters and clear Ambassadors as resonants...
DW Collector's
Ludwig Classic Maple
Yamaha Stage Custom Nouveau
Meinl Byzance, Zildjian A Custom, Zildjian Platinum Cymbals
DW 5k & 9k Hardware
Evans and Remo Heads
Vic Firth
shine.fm-youth
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:16 pm
Location: peoria

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:11 pm

g2 coated/ec2s for batters
g1 clears for batters

i like open sounds, and resonance..
i don't like dead toms
drums - pacific LX
cymbals - saluda black mist, voodoo
pedals - axis, iron cobra
gear - DW, rock n' sock
sticks - vic firth
User avatar
Mitchell?
groove master
groove master
Posts: 2432
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:13 pm
Location: Lexington, KY

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:14 pm

A lot of people enjoi resonant, singin' toms.
_...:::/ Jimbob2020 agrees \:::..._
ImageImageImage
minimatt7
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:34 pm
Location: New Jersey

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:15 pm

ok well thats very understanding.
no one ever gave any reasons people just say its a bad idea period.
the g1 is made by evans right?
User avatar
Mitchell?
groove master
groove master
Posts: 2432
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:13 pm
Location: Lexington, KY

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 pm

Yeah. A G-something heads are made by Evans.
_...:::/ Jimbob2020 agrees \:::..._
ImageImageImage
shine.fm-youth
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:16 pm
Location: peoria

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:17 pm

minimatt7 wrote:ok well thats very understanding.
no one ever gave any reasons people just say its a bad idea period.
the g1 is made by evans right?



it is a bad idea,
it generally sounds bad..
drums that go "thud" and that's it is usually bad
and yes g1s and 2s are evans
drums - pacific LX
cymbals - saluda black mist, voodoo
pedals - axis, iron cobra
gear - DW, rock n' sock
sticks - vic firth
User avatar
Jimbob2020
session drummer
session drummer
Posts: 653
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:43 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:19 pm

Yeah I like a lot of resonance... I use all of my toms open except for a 4th of a piece of moongel on my 12"... Which will change when I get a tom rack...
DW Collector's
Ludwig Classic Maple
Yamaha Stage Custom Nouveau
Meinl Byzance, Zildjian A Custom, Zildjian Platinum Cymbals
DW 5k & 9k Hardware
Evans and Remo Heads
Vic Firth
minimatt7
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:34 pm
Location: New Jersey

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:21 pm

do any of you guys use O-rings or do you like full hardcore resonance no muffling what so ever?
shine.fm-youth
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:16 pm
Location: peoria

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:25 pm

i use e-rings
but i cut mine down
about half of what they come as
that's just when my drums are set up in my basement/practice area
when i'm playing a show i leave them open
drums - pacific LX
cymbals - saluda black mist, voodoo
pedals - axis, iron cobra
gear - DW, rock n' sock
sticks - vic firth
minimatt7
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:34 pm
Location: New Jersey

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:27 pm

what do you for recording then do you like leave them on so they dont like overring? well you could easily just mix the tracks so they don't right?
shine.fm-youth
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:16 pm
Location: peoria

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:33 pm

yea, recording you want to leave them completely open
mic top and bottom so you get all the sounds, overtones, and resonance...
then EQ everything so it sounds like you want
you'll never be able to achieve a sound you hear on a recording
that's somethings newbies try to do way to often
just learn how to tune correctly
and leave your stuff open and let your drums sing dude
you and the people listening will be much happier
Last edited by shine.fm-youth on Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
drums - pacific LX
cymbals - saluda black mist, voodoo
pedals - axis, iron cobra
gear - DW, rock n' sock
sticks - vic firth
User avatar
Jimbob2020
session drummer
session drummer
Posts: 653
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:43 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:33 pm

minimatt7 wrote:what do you for recording then do you like leave them on so they dont like overring? well you could easily just mix the tracks so they don't right?


I use e-rings on my practice kit because it's set up in a room with bad acoustics... On my gigging set I leave them all open for shows other than a very small pillow in my kick.. When I'm recording I sometimes use moongels on my toms and snare depending on what it sounds like...
DW Collector's
Ludwig Classic Maple
Yamaha Stage Custom Nouveau
Meinl Byzance, Zildjian A Custom, Zildjian Platinum Cymbals
DW 5k & 9k Hardware
Evans and Remo Heads
Vic Firth
minimatt7
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 5:34 pm
Location: New Jersey

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:38 pm

yeah im recording with my band right now and im just being open for suggestions.
and shine.fm-youth, very true tuning saves my life probably one of the best things ive ever learned haha. i was actually mixing stuff the other day and i find it so fascinating who many different sounds you can get out of the drum set
shine.fm-youth
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:16 pm
Location: peoria

Post Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:40 pm

have you read threw the drum tuning bible yet?
their's 1000 lifetimes of information on there
it's a wonderful tool for every drummer
drums - pacific LX
cymbals - saluda black mist, voodoo
pedals - axis, iron cobra
gear - DW, rock n' sock
sticks - vic firth