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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:17 pm

how do drummers that use single pedals do those like double stroke or triplets. for example Abe Cunnigham from Deftones, or Tony Hajjar from At The Drive-In or Jose Pasillas from Incubus? Do they use the heel-toe technique?
some songs where those bass strokes are in:
Deftones
"Needles and Pins"
"Change"
"Knife Prty"
"Digital Bath"
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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:58 pm

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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:05 pm

you understood what i meant. thanks so much man i appreciate it :D
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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:22 pm

no prob man, happy drummin.

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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:04 pm

Not everyone uses the same technique. :)

I use Constant Release, Mike uses the Slide, I'm sure at least one of the guys you mentions uses Heel-Toe, and some play the way Bonham did. You have to go through them all and find out what works the best for you. :)
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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:22 pm

Heel-toe is the easiest, or for me :mrgreen:
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Post Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:34 pm

SGarrett wrote:Not everyone uses the same technique. :)

I use Constant Release, Mike uses the Slide, I'm sure at least one of the guys you mentions uses Heel-Toe, and some play the way Bonham did. You have to go through them all and find out what works the best for you. :)


Mike says it's more of a skip than a slide. I use his technique because hey it works, and he's my teacher, Ive never really had anyone teach me any other style, but for sure, whatever you find that works go for it. There's youtube vids showing all the different techniques. I will say thought that I'm a bit afraid of trying Constant Release cause it sounds like some painful tantric thing that Sting would be into. lol.

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Post Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:04 am

for doubles I use what I believe is the "bonham" technique, which is basically that the two strokes are essentially one stroke while raising your heel with a little bounce in the middle. I can do stupidly fast doubles with my right foot like this.
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Post Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:01 am

for doubles I use what I believe is the "bonham" technique, which is basically that the two strokes are essentially one stroke while raising your heel with a little bounce in the middle. I can do stupidly fast doubles with my right foot like this.


Same as me, im always confused as to how people use their heel? are they really talking about their heel or the ball of their foot? My foot hangs right off the end of the pedal lol, big feet.
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Post Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:56 am

I use Mikes technique almost exactly, I just dont know if I could do it with flip-flops on.
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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:45 pm

I learned slide by complete and total accident, I had no prior knowledge of the technique, but just slipped my foot up the pedal and was like "Hey, this is cool."
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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:51 pm

whats constant release...
i try to use heel-toe cause i think jojo mayer uses it lol.
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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:50 pm

Constant Release

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Slide

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Heel-Toe

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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:52 pm

SGarrett wrote:Not everyone uses the same technique. :)

I use Constant Release, Mike uses the Slide, I'm sure at least one of the guys you mentions uses Heel-Toe, and some play the way Bonham did. You have to go through them all and find out what works the best for you. :)


i thought bonham was a slider
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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:43 pm

What exactly was Bonham's technique?

In all the video I've ever seen of him, I can't remember ever seeing a shot that clearly showed his BD tech, and I've been watching everything available for the past 25 years. I'm pretty sure he was not a "slider", because his legs are pretty stationary. It's not covered in the book about him ("Thunder of Drums") - they talk more about his tuning method and gear in the book.

His HiHat foot is easier to see in most vids, and you can see that he was not sliding or lifting his foot off of the pedal. It looks like a lot of ankle with a small amount of knee motion.
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