Swivel-foot technique

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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:02 am

I've seen it done before, and I've tried it and can't do it:/

Does anyone know any pointers/tips to help me get a bit faster?
Also,
any excersizes to get my legs stronger for double-bass?

thanks
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:08 am

That technique will eventually cause problems with with the tendons and ligaments in your ankles and knees.

Constant release and/or heel/toe would be great to learn.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:05 am

SGarrett wrote:That technique will eventually cause problems with with the tendons and ligaments in your ankles and knees.

Constant release and/or heel/toe would be great to learn.


ahh right:/
Would there be any possible way to avoid the problems?

Because I think it might take me and while to get to grips with heel-toe.
I'll give it a go though, and Constant release

cheers for the heads up.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:32 am

Sure is. Don't do it. :)
If you've never hurt one of those tendons or ligaments, you really don't want to. It hurts. Really bad.

You just need some dedicated and focused practice, with a positive frame of mind, to learn a new technique. If you have gigs while this is happening, play naturally.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:46 am

SGarrett wrote:Sure is. Don't do it. :)
If you've never hurt one of those tendons or ligaments, you really don't want to. It hurts. Really bad.

You just need some dedicated and focused practice, with a positive frame of mind, to learn a new technique. If you have gigs while this is happening, play naturally.


Hmm, I don't think I'll be having any gigs for a while:/
My bands practices arent going so well atm,

but the music we play is fast and heavy.
So I really do need to sit down and practice it,
Would you recommend Futz practice pedals for indoor quiet practice?
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:28 pm

KKBDrummer wrote:
SGarrett wrote:Sure is. Don't do it. :)
If you've never hurt one of those tendons or ligaments, you really don't want to. It hurts. Really bad.

You just need some dedicated and focused practice, with a positive frame of mind, to learn a new technique. If you have gigs while this is happening, play naturally.


Hmm, I don't think I'll be having any gigs for a while:/
My bands practices arent going so well atm,

but the music we play is fast and heavy.
So I really do need to sit down and practice it,
Would you recommend Futz practice pedals for indoor quiet practice?


I've got a Futz they are really good for practicing coordination and such but you can forget trying to learn heel-toe on it. Unless I just completely have no clue how to do it. I just bought one to help on my heel-up technique. I'm not really into double bass. If it were me I'd buy one of those practice kits and use my regular pedals on it.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 pm

Gibraltar and Pearl both sell a kick practice pad that you can hook a regular pedal up to.

The best time to woodshed is when you aren't gigging.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:53 pm

SGarrett wrote:Gibraltar and Pearl both sell a kick practice pad that you can hook a regular pedal up to.

The best time to woodshed is when you aren't gigging.


Hmmmm..... I may have to look into those.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:15 pm

i have the gibraltar one, it's awesome
i highly recommend it
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:51 pm

Yeah, the Gibraltar one is softer so it's more of a workout. The Pearl one is unrealistically firm.
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Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:55 pm

yeah i made the GC guy let me take them out and test them (against his will)
the pearl was ridiculously firm, and i didn't like the DW practice set at all...
the gibraltar is a huge workout the only problem i had at first was
my IC beater would flip up because of the curve of the pad
but after wearing it in, and rising them up a little is was fine
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Post Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:42 am

SGarrett wrote:Gibraltar and Pearl both sell a kick practice pad that you can hook a regular pedal up to.

The best time to woodshed is when you aren't gigging.


I used to have one of those DW practice kits,
with the kick pad and everything,

But it broke on me, about 2 weeks into owning it.
Bad on DW's part.

So I was slightly put off to the idea:/
But I'll give them a look over
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Post Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:00 am

KKBDrummer wrote:
SGarrett wrote:Gibraltar and Pearl both sell a kick practice pad that you can hook a regular pedal up to.

The best time to woodshed is when you aren't gigging.


I used to have one of those DW practice kits,
with the kick pad and everything,

But it broke on me, about 2 weeks into owning it.
Bad on DW's part.

So I was slightly put off to the idea:/
But I'll give them a look over


You know that DW has a lifetime warranty, right?
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Post Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:10 am

SGarrett wrote:
KKBDrummer wrote:
SGarrett wrote:Gibraltar and Pearl both sell a kick practice pad that you can hook a regular pedal up to.

The best time to woodshed is when you aren't gigging.


I used to have one of those DW practice kits,
with the kick pad and everything,

But it broke on me, about 2 weeks into owning it.
Bad on DW's part.

So I was slightly put off to the idea:/
But I'll give them a look over


You know that DW has a lifetime warranty, right?


NOW I do.
haha

I didn't buy it from them directly, and how would I go about getting it renewed?
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Post Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:17 am

SGarrett wrote:The best time to woodshed is when you aren't gigging.


uhhh, that happens about once every several years for me. oops. I just have to grab my practice time where I can. [/code]