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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:07 am

When you play double strokes do you use the rebound of the stick as your second hit

I.e CAPS is the main hit. Small is the rebound

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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:12 am

Both! :-)

When playing slow tempo you should play both strokes as indevidual strokes. When you increase speed you'll find a point comes where you use the rebound to get the second stroke.

The trick is getting it even from slow doubles through the crossover and into the rebounding doubles.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:14 am

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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:48 am

When I play them or teach them, the 1st stroke(down-stroke) rebounds and the fingers return the stick to the drum(on the up-stroke) to achieve the 2nd stroke.
If you snap it with your fingers, the e and the ah will be stronger.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:29 am

drumur wrote:When I play them or teach them, the 1st stroke(down-stroke) rebounds and the fingers return the stick to the drum(on the up-stroke) to achieve the 2nd stroke.
If you snap it with your fingers, the e and the ah will be stronger.

Yes, its the key to having clean double strokes that if, done correctly, sound like singles! The finger rebound also helps to learning blast beats as well.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:22 am

drumur wrote:When I play them or teach them, the 1st stroke(down-stroke) rebounds and the fingers return the stick to the drum(on the up-stroke) to achieve the 2nd stroke.
If you snap it with your fingers, the e and the ah will be stronger.

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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:41 am

Here's one example

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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:17 pm

that's pretty hot. a new technique to work on.

I will say that I don't "pinch" the stick to get the double. if anything I open up my grip a little.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:22 pm

i taught my drumline, so me being a "drumline guy" i guess
i was always taught that double stokes are always two singles..
you never play re-bound, no matter how fast they get.
so i incorporate that into my kit playing
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:59 pm

Here's my niftay video. :lol:

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You can see how I let the stick rebound all the way and then just squeeze fingers for the second stroke.

One thing you can do to practice making the second note the same volume is play the exact opposite of what you're playing now. Make the first note the soft one and the second note the loud one. Do it slowly and controlled on a pillow so you can't use any rebound at all.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:18 pm

Ah so I am right and wrong at same time

Great cheers guys
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:18 pm

drummerduba wrote:Ah so I am right and wrong at same time

Great cheers guys

You are more right than wrong brother Duba!
Also, good advise guys.
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Post Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:28 pm

shine.fm-youth wrote:i taught my drumline, so me being a "drumline guy" i guess
i was always taught that double stokes are always two singles..
you never play re-bound, no matter how fast they get.
so i incorporate that into my kit playing


I disagree! Yes double strokes should be thought of as two individual strokes but you should absolutely use rebound. The sticks should be thought of as an extension of your own arm. You should get a wrist pop with each stroke no matter what the tempo is! Relax and allow the sticks to work with you! Control the sticks, don't let them control you! You may have to stroke something out more on certain things but always use the rebound! Where did you march? Who did you learn under? Where do you teach?
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