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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:36 pm

This is from my hometown, we're not a big community. We are a close knit community though. While Sean was not my best friend we did talk in passing, and he was a stand-up guy.

Two teens are facing murder charges and a Southeastern Kentucky sheriff's deputy is dead after a crash early this morning in Bell County. Now many have questions about how this happened and why.

Police say early this morning, two teens left the Exxon gas station in Baxter in Harlan County without paying for gas and made a run for it, leading police on a chase that ended in tragedy. No one expected an alleged attempt to steal gas to turn so quickly into what police are calling murder. State police later tried to pull the 2002 Mazda over for speeding, but the driver refused to stop. Two state troopers chased the car into Bell County. Suddenly, the car veered left, crossed a lane of traffic and crashed into the side of a Bell County sheriff deputy's car, killing Deputy Sean Pursifull and his K9 King. Two troopers witnessed the whole thing.

"There are no skid marks prior to the collision. Deputy Percivill did have his emergency lights on and there are, were no taillights that came on prior to the collision. They did not brake," said Walt Meechum with the Kentucky State Police.

Deputy Pursifull was pronounced dead at the scene. Though they are not releasing their identities, police say a 16 and a 17 year old were in the vehicle. They are both being charged with one count of murder of a police officer and assault of a service animal.

The two teens were treated at a local hospital for minor injuries. They are currently housed at the Adair County, Juvinile Detention Center.

For many this story is about more than a deputy losing his life. It's about a father, son and co-worker being taken from those who love him.

Bell County Sheriff Bruce Bennett says Deputy Sean Pursifull died doing the job he loved so much.

"I can't stress enough how much Sean loved law enforcement and he really loved working here," Bennett said.

Working alongside his canine companion "King", the sheriff says the two had a special bond.

"He was totally committed to the dog and the dog totally committed to him. It's ironic, them leaving this world together," Bennett said.

Bennett says in recent days, Sean seemed happier than ever with his two girls, a fiancé, and a son on the way.

"He even made that statement, happiest in years with his job, his new life," Bennett said.

It's a deeply somber mood at the sheriff's office where there are only seven deputies that all work closely together. In fact, Sheriff Bennett says Sean was like a son to him.

"Several people told me he considers me his second dad. We'll just miss him so much," Bennett said.

As you can imagine, Sean Pursifull's immediate family is having a real hard time dealing with this. We caught up with his mother earlier.

"It's gonna be hard because I only have two boys, it's gonna be hard," said Bernice Pursifull, Sean's mother.
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:03 pm

that's terrible. Hope they get the stiffest penalty that can be given out. It's reckless idiocy like this that I can't stand. I know i'm guilty of driving like an idiot in the past (ie racing my friends down a back road throwing stuff at each other, then later that day having a good friend killed in a crash and another hospitalized and his football career basically ended). After that I've realized that I was an idiot, and could have easily been killed, and you have no idea how terrible and stupid all my friends felt afterwards and thats on top of our friends passing. These kids need to be taught a lesson and made an example of. I hope they learn their lesson. I'm 17, i haven't driven for a long time, but now I know not to be an idiot, and though this may seem a little hypocritical given my actions, I probably would have accepted my punishment if something happened to me. To see someone killed for a bit of gas basically is just terrible.
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Post Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:01 pm

Strap some electrodes onto their balls and assholes, turn them on, and throw them into a pool. Filled with razor blades. That's what they deserve.

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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:33 pm

Well, I would'nt put it in such extreme terms but it does appear that we should erase 2 people from the planet
They've already proven to be liabilities
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:35 pm

Yea, I'm so sick of stupidity. These punks just took somebodys friend, husband, son, and father. All because they wanted to steal some gas. It just makes me sick.
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:47 pm

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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:54 pm

I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!
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Post Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:20 pm

stump wrote:I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!


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stump wrote:I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!


Is it his fault? I see a case for both being at fault and both being innocent, these kids should get 10 years min.! I really wish this hadn't happened, if they had just been good kids, payed and drove off at or slightly above the speed limit, then a man who enforces the law for this great country could still be alive, helping us all feel safer as we sleep, knowing that he and every other great man and women risking their own lives for our protection.

But what can you do... things like this should never happen. i feel they are the only ones responsible, stealing gas and a man has to die.
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:20 am

Gabimo wrote:
stump wrote:I am a forgiving person. I am truely sorry that a Brother and his partner lost thier lives. Do those two kids deserve to pay for what they did? Yes...and they will (now or later). Actually do you blame them both or just the driver??? I would probably say the driver. I don't for one second down play any situation where an Officer looses their life. We just lost another Deputy on Monday. Deputy Paul Moses. Second one in less than a month. He lost his life to another type of enemy....cancer. We just never know when our time is going to come or by what means. But as Law Enforcement Officer's we all have, or should have, the thought in our minds that our time can come at any time or on any call. And for the most part all of us are willing to give our lives in the line of duty at any time. Peace be with Deputy Percivill and K-9 King. Blessed are the Peace keeper's, for they will be called the children of God!


Is it his fault? I see a case for both being at fault and both being innocent, these kids should get 10 years min.! I really wish this hadn't happened, if they had just been good kids, payed and drove off at or slightly above the speed limit, then a man who enforces the law for this great country could still be alive, helping us all feel safer as we sleep, knowing that he and every other great man and women risking their own lives for our protection.

But what can you do... things like this should never happen. i feel they are the only ones responsible, stealing gas and a man has to die.


Not sure 10 years is quite enough punishment, personally. I mean, think about it. Someone lost his life, and that can't be taken back - 10 years in jail seems sort of like a mild nipple twister in comparison. They are obviously old enough to know what they were doing, so I don't think they should get any kind of break because they're minors. I'm also a forgiving person but I have no tolerance or pity for people who do stuff like this.

I think people are much too concerned with the rights of the criminals - in my opinion when you take someone's life there are certain rights you forfeit. Call me crazy but I would have thought the victims and the families and friends who are emotionally traumatized and lose someone close to them forever deserve higher consideration, and criminals definitely deserve stiffer penalties.

The excuse that really pisses me off is "Well, they had a rough life growing up, they never learned right from wrong." Come on. Surely you don't have to get a lesson to know it's wrong to kill someone?

Rest in peace, Sean.
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:40 am

Once again..I am not down playing what happened. My point was that you can't assume that they both chose to do that crime. You certainly can't blame someone for running from the police if they are not the driver. As stated... they deserve to get punished. Do I have faith in the criminal justice system that it will be enough...NO! Bottom line is that it is a fact of life that we will all die. Call me a realist. Deputy Pecivill died doing what he believed in. Respect! I live with that knowledge every day and accept it, as I am sure he did as well. Peace on ya!
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:35 pm

somebody is gonna get violated in a cell the rest of their lives.............
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Post Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:24 pm

I think they're gonna get tried as adults too. I hope so. And yea, they're both gonna be someone's girlfriend. I hope everytime one get's buried in them they think about the pain they cause Sean's family.
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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:25 am

ok -- well... i'm going to get myself hated right away...

would you all be so angry and bloodthirsty if the corpses in question weren't a pig and his trained attack dog?
what if the cops had done a "pitt maneuver" during the chase (standard practice where i come from) causing the fleeing vehicle to spin out of control and resulting in the deaths of the two TEENAGERS rather than the deputy and dog? would you be screaming for the cop in question to be tortured unto grisly extermination???

i'm sick of fascists being considered heros. i don't know how this deputy was AS A PERSON, i'm sure he had his redeeming qualities like everyone else, but being a cop is as likely to make you a villain as a hero - that's all a matter of individual perspective. personally, i just don't like cops - especially ones who exploit animals the way K9's are...

flame away - i know you probably want me dead now too...
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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:25 am

gaianbeatnik wrote:ok -- well... i'm going to get myself hated right away...

would you all be so angry and bloodthirsty if the corpses in question weren't a pig and his trained attack dog?
what if the cops had done a "pitt maneuver" during the chase (standard practice where i come from) causing the fleeing vehicle to spin out of control and resulting in the deaths of the two TEENAGERS rather than the deputy and dog? would you be screaming for the cop in question to be tortured unto grisly extermination???

i'm sick of fascists being considered heros. i don't know how this deputy was AS A PERSON, i'm sure he had his redeeming qualities like everyone else, but being a cop is as likely to make you a villain as a hero - that's all a matter of individual perspective. personally, i just don't like cops - especially ones who exploit animals the way K9's are...

flame away - i know you probably want me dead now too...


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