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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:11 am

Ive been watching a few of his videos on you tube. I cant stand how he has no res head on any of his drums except for the kick.
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:18 am

And why does this get under your skin so much? Phil Collins has a pretty interesting tom sound if you ask me.

Anybody else think his playing with Brand X is amazing?
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:09 am

I believe in the new Drumhead magazine article, Phil said he has nothing against double-headed toms, and has used them on many projects. He's just best known for using concert toms, which a LOT of drummers have used.

Alan_ wrote:Anybody else think his playing with Brand X is amazing?


yes, very cool band. Phil really gets to stretch there. He also did some interesting things with early Genesis.
I'm always surprised when people call him over-rated or a hack; I assume they're not familiar with his Brand X work or the proggier Genesis albums ( I love Lamb Lies down...)
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:21 am

i think he doesnt have reso's on his drums is because they are concert toms also maybe so they project more?
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:24 am

if phil collins put resos on, i guess he would lose the phil collins sound?!? he is pretty unique! (sound)
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:28 am

Phil Collins' tom sound is a classic. Think about "In The Air Tonight" (the only one of his solo compositions I can stand) or "In the Mood" by Robert plant.
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:44 am

My family is full of Genesis fans. I grew up listening to Phil. He was definitely one of my biggest inspirations to play the drums. If you can't stand the fact that he uses concert toms, well, that's your preference. It's a shame, though, because the man is an amazing drummer and if you could overlook the aesthetics, you may pick up a few tricks.
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Post Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:48 am

Great drummer, with a ton of talent. I love his sound and try as I may, I've never been able to replicate it.
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Post Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:33 pm

Phil is one of my all time drum heroes, particularly for his work with Genesis. I think the reason so many people hate him is because most people don't know he was ever with Genesis, they only know him for his solo work, which is a lot more mainstream.

One thing I definitely respect about him is that he always sounds solid, reliable, and powerful, and can do amazing fills and grooves, but he never overpowers the rest of the song and never overdoes anything. It's probably why so many people like Eric Clapton and Mark Knopfler hire him to drum on a lot of their solo work - he can sound interesting without ever upstaging them.
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Post Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:26 pm

Before "Trick of the Tail" he used bottom heads.
I saw him on Selling England by the Pound and Lamb Lies Down on Broadway tour.
He had bottom heads on those albums and earlier.

And why does this get under your skin so much? Phil Collins has a pretty interesting tom sound if you ask me.

Anybody else think his playing with Brand X is amazing?


His playing is excellent in my opinion.

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Post Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:31 pm

Alan_ wrote:And why does this get under your skin so much? Phil Collins has a pretty interesting tom sound if you ask me.

Anybody else think his playing with Brand X is amazing?



his brand X playing is phenomenal! Have you heard Nuclear Burn.....that groove just flows so well
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Post Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:01 pm

I just got a 53 inch plasma high def TV, with bose surround sound..and I just watched a phil collins concert...wow. Not wrong with his kit...especially when it's the kit in a 15 minute drum solo. lol
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Post Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:04 pm

Im a big Genesis fan and have always admired Phil's drumming. Some of his fills and use of time is quite hard to replicate. When they came to Cleveland this fall I shelled out 700 bucks for front row seats only to have Phil's kit blocked by Tony Banks....ugh. Looks like hes playing a rather unimpressive Gretch kit and Sabian cymbals. I checked out the tribute band page, nice job on the drums if that you, and the band sounds great.
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:52 am

I have no problem with Phil, I think he was and always will be a drummer primarily, then a front man. He's done some great tracks.