Ludwig Speedkings

Post here anything about the world of drumming. Equipment, music, drum gear, artists, events, gigs, and anything else drum set related!

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
SHOGUNWARRIOR32
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 386
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:57 am
Location: Detroit, Mi.

Post Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:15 pm

I was listening to 'Since I've Been Loving You' by Zep the other day and I noticed that distinct squeak from his pedal. Very noticeable. That same exact squeak gave me an instant flashback to my early days when I had 2 speedkings. I knew right off the bat, just from that squeak, that's what he was using..i went online to double check..and yep ..that's what he used. i never knew what he used before that strange discovery. One little squeak brought me back so many years. And it made perfect sense because those pedals were so damn fast and it definitely shows in Bonhams playing obviously.

Has anyone here owned a speedking and know what i'm talking about?

Does anyone use speedkings anymore?

Just curious.. never really hear about them anymore.
<img src="http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9207/logoanimation1smallbn4.gif"><a href="http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3244/newkitpic33008vs3.jpg" target="blank"><img src="http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8996/drumsthumbvt6.jpg"></a>
User avatar
pow3rtr1p
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 262
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:55 am

Post Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:17 pm

OK, I've never used speedkings, but isn't it just a tad sad that you can hear the pedals squeak on the recording? You would think, even back then, they could have done something to keep the pedal itself from getting picked up by the mic...
Sonor Drums, Evans and Aquarian Heads, Saluda Cymbals, Vic Firth Sticks

14" Glory Hats, 16" Diamond Rock Crash (Cracked...), 22" Symbolic Ride
14" Pre-Aged Voodoo China
User avatar
BillRayDrums
Member Of The Year 2010
Member Of The Year 2010
Posts: 2009
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:59 am
Location: Lower California

Post Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:21 pm

SHOGUNWARRIOR32 wrote:I was listening to 'Since I've Been Loving You' by Zep the other day and I noticed that distinct squeak from his pedal. Very noticeable. That same exact squeak gave me an instant flashback to my early days when I had 2 speedkings. I knew right off the bat, just from that squeak, that's what he was using..i went online to double check..and yep ..that's what he used. i never knew what he used before that strange discovery. One little squeak brought me back so many years. And it made perfect sense because those pedals were so damn fast and it definitely shows in Bonhams playing obviously.

Has anyone here owned a speedking and know what i'm talking about?

Does anyone use speedkings anymore?

Just curious.. never really hear about them anymore.


The old Spud King Squeak!! I loved Spud kings. I learned on a Spud King. Nico McBrain was famous for his predisposition towards the SK. Seriously, I learned to play fast doubles on that dinosaur. If you can play them on that, you can play them on anything.

If the young drummers today literally had to learn on that and nothing else, there'd be a lot less complaining about foot speed. Once you get onto a DW from the SK, you can FLY.
Airborne Ranger
session drummer
session drummer
Posts: 509
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:57 am

Post Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:18 am

I use a Speed King now and I love it. I've owned a DW 9000 double pedal but sold it in favor of the Speed King. It's the first pedal I started with in the late 70's and will continue to use it. I just bought a brand new Speed King to replace my 30 year old one and the famous sqeek is gone. The squeek came from the hinges used. Ludwig replaced all the problem areas with silent nylon bushings but essentially it has been the same pedal for over 60 years. Keep your $800+ Trick or Axis pedals, I bought my Speed King for $95 new. It's still made in the Ludwig plant in NC. The squeek added character and it never seemed to bother Bonham, Baker, Starr, Rich or countless others who've used that pedal.
User avatar
break the prism
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1438
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:22 pm
Location: Danbury, CT

Post Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:38 am

I have three different pedals. a pearl eliminator, tama powerglide, and a ludwig speedking. i love the speedking. it's vintage as well, from about '76. it actually squeaks less than my powerglide. i use it way more than my other two pedals.
Beat on.
User avatar
zen_drummer
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1898
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:17 pm
Location: Rochester NY

Post Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:30 pm

The Speed King is one of the fastest pedals EVER designed. The compression spring and cam follower design can't be beat. I learned on Speed Kings and until I got my Trick Pro !V pedal I was never happy with another modern pedal.

But MAN those Squeak Kings were noisy!
Image
User avatar
Lancelot Frosty
session drummer
session drummer
Posts: 929
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:48 am

Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:21 am

I've used them before. Once.
Amazing pedals. Real nice and fast.
Just really noisy.
Original Frosty.
User avatar
Brother_Bong
groove master
groove master
Posts: 4300
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:53 pm
Location: Maine

Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:42 pm

Hell, my 14-15 year old Axis squeak now!
MEDICINE MAN AZ Endorsed, TRICK PEDALS, ZILDJIAN, SABIAN, SALUDA, SUPERNATURALS, ASAPH, WUHAN, SILVERFOX, BUD LIGHT

Image
pepperspray
drumming adept
drumming adept
Posts: 50
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:27 pm

Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:19 pm

i read once that Bonham liked the squeek, because
he totally could have added a little oil to fix it.
User avatar
break the prism
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1438
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:22 pm
Location: Danbury, CT

Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:08 pm

taht's all it took to fix mine. and mine's old.
Beat on.
User avatar
Tgaff08
beginner
beginner
Posts: 29
Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:25 am

Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:06 am

you can also hear the "bonham squeek" on The Ocean and probably many Zeppelin songs. before my friend pointed it out to me in "since i've been loving you" i never heared it, now i hear it all the time. i think its really neat and says something about Zep's character
Gaff

Coppell Drums

Pacific Drums by DW
Sabian
Remo
Vic Firth
User avatar
break the prism
groove master
groove master
Posts: 1438
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:22 pm
Location: Danbury, CT

Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:37 pm

i agree. i think it gave them a more under-produced sound, which i my opinion shows a lot of character.

i personally can't stand a squeaky pedal when i'm playing, so i oil mine up pretty well.
Beat on.