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Post Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:52 pm

I have been playing for about 4 years
and playing metal for around 1 and a half
i picked up double bass quickly but then i wasnt allowed on my kit no more
i kept slowing down and getting faster then slowing down again
now im 16's at aroun 170-180 bpm
i only practace at my band members house as he has his own kit
any techniques that can help me?

also my blasting needs sorting out too
and suggestions?
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Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:15 am

Only hard practice will built your technique-endurance-groove with double bass drumming.So you must find your own space to practice...My opinion about foot techniques is to search on you tube.I use at low speeds full leg (i want power) and at high speeds a mix of swivel and ankle technique.This is what feels natural to my legs i know the other techniques but i can't feel comfortable...it's your choice have fun!!!
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Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:48 am

Sorry for being so uninformed but what is a blast beat?
I never heard of it until I came to this forum
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Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:06 am

drumur wrote:Sorry for being so uninformed but what is a blast beat?
I never heard of it until I came to this forum


a blast beat is a single stroke roll applied as a beat would be applied. right hand on the ride or hi hats (or crash or bell or piece of apple pie for all i care). left hand on the snare. your bass drum usually follows your rigtht hand or both your feet follow theyre respective hands. of course you can also do it left handed
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Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:05 am

I always thought blast beat were supposed to be both hands at the same time. Is that something with a different name, then?
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Post Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:16 pm

Howepirate... that was awesome dude.
I imagine you're triggering the kicks.
You've got that heel-toe technique down.
very cool
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:56 am

drumur wrote:Howepirate... that was awesome dude.
I imagine you're triggering the kicks.
You've got that heel-toe technique down.
very cool



Ahhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahaha. That's Derek Roddy, a legend in death metal drumming. Please don't ever compare me to the likes of a master such as him lolololol.


And that's not heel-toe, it's all single strokes.
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:00 am

pow3rtr1p wrote:I always thought blast beat were supposed to be both hands at the same time. Is that something with a different name, then?


nah not really. its still refered to as "blasting" but its not an actual blastbeat
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:03 am

Howepirate wrote:
drumur wrote:Howepirate... that was awesome dude.
I imagine you're triggering the kicks.
You've got that heel-toe technique down.
very cool



Ahhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahaha. That's Derek Roddy, a legend in death metal drumming. Please don't ever compare me to the likes of a master such as him lolololol.


And that's not heel-toe, it's all single strokes.



it crazy to watch old videos of derek roddy ad then looking tat him now. hes progresse so far. hes not quite as fast anymore because hes concentrated more on the important stuff
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:39 am

zamnato wrote:I have been playing for about 4 years
and playing metal for around 1 and a half
i picked up double bass quickly but then i wasnt allowed on my kit no more
i kept slowing down and getting faster then slowing down again
now im 16's at aroun 170-180 bpm
i only practace at my band members house as he has his own kit
any techniques that can help me?

also my blasting needs sorting out too
and suggestions?



once you crack 'Blastbeats'
Have a bash at 'Gravity Blasts'
Check it out on youtube
look for 'Lord Marco' if you can
Ive just about got in cracked

its hard stuff lyk


Keep up the good work (Y)
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:17 pm

Blastbeats are all fine and dandy but it come down the black and white of the issue...

there over used and over rated in todays Metal Scene
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:29 pm

The most improvement for me came from repetition and persistance! Don't expect to get good over a month or two. For blast beats and double bass, it's important to work with a metronome and make sure you are getting clean, consistant strokes. Play slow and accurate(as slow as you have to go) in order to build control. Also play at fast tempos to build up speed and endurance(but practice both slow and fast). As far as technique goes, I've spoken with many metal drummers and read many books, and they all have very good things to say and suggest. So try different techiques and see what works best for you. Remember, we all play and learn different, so what may work for me, may not work for you. Experiment!!!!!
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:51 pm

ZaQ[MTG] wrote:Blastbeats are all fine and dandy but it come down the black and white of the issue...

there over used and over rated in todays Metal Scene


And i suppose your in one of those HxxcxxCHxC bands, right? I suppose Metal is "over-rated" to you because it's to complex.
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:34 pm

Howepirate wrote:
ZaQ[MTG] wrote:Blastbeats are all fine and dandy but it come down the black and white of the issue...

there over used and over rated in todays Metal Scene


And i suppose your in one of those HxxcxxCHxC bands, right? I suppose Metal is "over-rated" to you because it's to complex.



Wow buddy, care to explain the hostile attitutude?

You got to be a Moderator how?

Your one of those people who cant take an opposite opinion can you?

im here for the same reason everyone else is, to voice our love for drumming.

How dare you come in here with your "Moderator Ego" and single people out who think differently.

Metal is complex and so is Hardcore...some of the most complex Breakdowns and Time Signitures were born From Hardcore.

Do your Freakin homework, and stop with all this immiture finger pointing.

And Also, Deleting My comments on the subject of Saluda Cymbals just cause i dissagree with you and some other drummers, is a pure sign of how immature and ignorant you really are.

Sorry Everyone, didnt mean to ruin this discussion.

To each his own.

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