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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:58 am

I play in a band where the lead singer/rhythm guitarist writes all the music and basically treats everyone like a "hired hand." But there is free reign on the drums I write for the music.I really dig the material but there is NO commitment from him that..I AM the drummer.I constantly have to keep looking over my shoulder....because the bass players best friend was the former drummer who's seat I took. He might want back in the band or an old lead guitarist liked the band when so and so was the drummer.I mean I know this sounds high school...but WTF??? No matter the job I seem to do,Im screwed so it seems.I've never put on a bad show.The only blemish on my behalf was a couple bad spots on a live recording we did...and I wasn't allowed to correct....I was told it will be"alright." So I havent given them a reason to look elsewhere.In my almost one year with the band,we've gone through 3 bass players,2 lead guitarists.Is there something wrong here,LOL?? Should I move on to something else? Should I keep it low-key and if the hammer falls,it falls? What would YOU do??
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:43 am

If i was you i would keep quite and work on something to blow their minds on the side line. adn do you have a link to a myspace or something we can hear for your band?
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:46 am

i would get him on his own and have a talk with him. tell him how you feel, that you dig his music but you want to know where you stand in the band. being in a band should be fun for all members.

why should you commit to him if he cant give you commitment? join another band if he wont change his ways!
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:57 am

Are you a band or are you his band?

Honestly, that's life. The same thing could happen to you any place you work. Just enjoy it while it's there and maybe start looking at yourself as a sideman instead of a band member. :)
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:49 am

IMHO, I would continue to play the songs the best that I could. Take every gig you can get with the band and get out and play in front of people. You never know who is in the audience. Never stop networking. Try to get recordings of you playing the music for your library of recordings.

IF the hammer falls, so be it. You've hopefully added some quality drumming to your resume. Should this happen, be cordial and remain complimentary to the artist and thank them for the opportunity; don't burn the bridge. If all of the other guys in the band are "hired guns" too, what's stopping them from calling you up to play/record with other projects their working on?
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:58 am

If you're being treated as a "hired hand", start billing him for your performances :twisted:
Be an asshole for as long as it takes him to realise he should have a reality check.

Or start looking for a band that's fun to play in.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:59 am

rufus4dagruv wrote:IMHO, I would continue to play the songs the best that I could. Take every gig you can get with the band and get out and play in front of people. You never know who is in the audience. Never stop networking. Try to get recordings of you playing the music for your library of recordings.

IF the hammer falls, so be it. You've hopefully added some quality drumming to your resume. Should this happen, be cordial and remain complimentary to the artist and thank them for the opportunity; don't burn the bridge. If all of the other guys in the band are "hired guns" too, what's stopping them from calling you up to play/record with other projects their working on?


I agree with these guys. You never want to burn bridges and even though being a backup is hard to do when you think your in a band, it's better than not working at all. Keep playing, let there comments roll off and never stop looking for work. I'm not saying go out and try to find another band but if someone asked you to fill in or someone has an idea, work with them too. You'll soon get a reputation as someone easy to work with and that will help get you more gigs.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:33 am

Are these guys 'so called mates' or what? Fuck em man, if theyre not happy with your playing then they can look for someone else, most likely they need you more than you need them. Ive been through a few situations like this, and Ive stuck through it, then after a while it all goes to shit be cuz of peoples egos and your thinkin 'wow I could hav been away ages ago!'.

Start playing with people behind there backs and find something, I know it sounds sly but youve gotta look out for yourself too.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:42 am

i personally wouldn't want to play in a band like that unless i Really liked the music or was getting paid for it, otherwise i wouldn't be happy cause i wasn't having fun if it was just for fun.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:32 am

Thus the reason I am in a band that has no egos. Went through some hard times finding a singer that leaves ego at the door but once we got one things have taken off. If I was you, I would get with the rest of the band and see what their feelings are. If they are mutual maybe you guys should have a look at getting a new singer. Peace on ya!
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:26 am

Dude..i just got out of a similar situation...you need to ask yourself..is this the right chemistry? am i still having fun? speak your thoughts to them and keep in mind there are a million other bands out there that would have the right chemistry.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:27 am

i tend to disagree with those that are telling you to stick with it.

unless you are a hired hand and being paid as such, you shouldn't be looking over your shoulder all the time.

the fact that so many members have come and gone from that band in a fairly short period of time isn't a good sign.

a real "band" should consist of equals. not bosses and servants. the guitar player in one of my bands writes all our songs and even throws drum ideas / feels out there... and we're still treated as equals. our band is a complete democracy.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:50 am

i think that about 50% of bands are kind of like that. where there is 1 guy that runs the show and the rest are just hired hands. thats totally fine as long as you are getting fair compensation. but if you are in the band for fun/free and you arent treated as an equal member then i would say get out and find somone more equitable to play with.
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:58 am

practice everyday and tell him to go f*ck homself
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Post Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:10 pm

stump wrote:Thus the reason I am in a band that has no egos. Went through some hard times finding a singer that leaves ego at the door but once we got one things have taken off. If I was you, I would get with the rest of the band and see what their feelings are. If they are mutual maybe you guys should have a look at getting a new singer. Peace on ya!


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